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If Murray Doesn't Go 1

Wouldn't even pick up the phone to call. If he fell to 13, there would be another name on the card turned in to Goodell.

If he falls to 13 it means every other team see's what we see. Concerns about his size and only one year of production. You can't spend a first rounder on that or multiple first rounders. The risk is too high for what he is. There's only been one Russell Wilson in the last 30 years, these guys don't fall off trees. And he went in the third round because of it.
 
All moot, Murray will go #1 whether that's Arizona picking him or another team trading up. I would give up everything for him personally, this is a talent that can transform a franchise, that's exactly what we need. We have other holes of course but until we plug this one this team is going nowhere.
 
Our first, Howard and maybe next years second. Like said above you don't need to move up to 1st. 13 to 3. I am not sure that gets the job done but I would start with our first and howard. Murray is the only QB I would be willing to draft this year.

You lost me at Howard.....why include one of our best D players and make that side of the ball worse? I would love KM.....at 13.....but I'm not trading up for him unless this is a Dion Jordan trade up deal
 
You lost me at Howard.....why include one of our best D players and make that side of the ball worse? I would love KM.....at 13.....but I'm not trading up for him unless this is a Dion Jordan trade up deal

I like Howard but getting the right franchise QB will get us to relevancy faster than Howard. I think Murray is the right QB. My opinion. With Howard on the team last year we still had one of the worst defenses in franchise history. Granted it may have been the worst without him. Basically Murray potentially moves the needle a lot farther and faster than Howard.

And we maybe using howard's prime years during the "rebuild". I dont want to use assets (draft picks) that will will be used after the "rebuild"
 
If Murray is there at 13 and they pass, i hope they send out Cam Cameron to talk to the draft party.

All joking aside, i hope they take him at 13 if he's there.
 
I dont trust his style of play. 4 QBs next year are better than him. Just wait a year. He ain't worth draft picks with better bait coming out next year. Be patient
 
lol at people discussing murray falling to 13


Just get to 5. Then it’s easy to go get him. I don’t buy any Oakland takes him at 4 stuff. Zona or at #1 in trade or I sit and wait til 5 unless someone will take the same compensation prior
 
Just get to 5. Then it’s easy to go get him. I don’t buy any Oakland takes him at 4 stuff. Zona or at #1 in trade or I sit and wait til 5 unless someone will take the same compensation prior

I agree - don’t see Gruden taking Kyler Murray....then again I’m not convinced Grier likes him enough to move up into that range either.

I just think Cards are the easiest fit.
 
I agree - don’t see Gruden taking Kyler Murray....then again I’m not convinced Grier likes him enough to move up into that range either.

I just think Cards are the easiest fit.


Grier very well may not. In which case it won’t matter. I don’t see any way he gets past 5. Someone’s coming to get him
 
Grier very well may not. In which case it won’t matter. I don’t see any way he gets past 5. Someone’s coming to get him

Yea I mean i don't know the answer myself but whens the last time a QB didn't get drafted in the top 5 of a draft? feels like it just doens't happen that way anymore
 
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