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Welcome To Miami Josh Rosen

Phindog said:
Word got out that in 2018 Grier said he wasn't planning on taking Rosen at 11 if the Cards didn't draft him. It was brought up last year and again today in a live draft interview.

He said "I liked Rosen, but not at 11"
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It was a different scenario last year because we had Tannehill coming back and contrary to what many want to believe on here it wasn't pre-ordained that the guy who had elevated his game under Gase wouldn't succeed last year.

I liked Rosen last year (other than Mayfield he was my favorite prospect) but not for the Dolphins to draft him because I thought it was worth giving Tannehill another shot and using the pick to improve the team and see what it could do and if we could make a run, rather than draft a QB that for the next year or two would probably play at the same level as Tannehill. We weren't in rebuild mode, we were in year 3 of Gase's tenure when he should have molded the team to something that could run his vision. Unfortunately Gase's vision was more about running offensive talent out of town and trying to assemble a Gruden-esque parade of predictable veterans.

The team was willing to abandon Tannehill for Baker Mayfield, but with it not being unreasonable to think Tannehill could have done well it wasn't worth the team merely treading water for a year or more by breaking in a rookie QB who wasn't a generational prospect.
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
Among 33 qualified passers last year, Rosen was last in yards per attempt (5.8), net yards per attempt (4.47), adjusted net yards per attempt (3.53), and passer rating (66.7), and 33rd in touchdown percentage (2.8 percent). He ranked 32nd in completion percentage (55.2 percent)
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This is why there are people who don't like the move...
 
I don't think they liked Rosen that much in 2018, but who cares? They're getting Josh Rosen with another year of development -- in the pros -- and with Arizona having picked up the tab for most of what he's owed on his rookie contract. And instead of giving up pick #11 (or having moved up to take him) the Dolphins gave up what, pick #68?

You can like a guy at #68 and not like a guy at #11. That's entirely fair.
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
Among 33 qualified passers last year, Rosen was last in yards per attempt (5.8), net yards per attempt (4.47), adjusted net yards per attempt (3.53), and passer rating (66.7), and 33rd in touchdown percentage (2.8 percent). He ranked 32nd in completion percentage (55.2 percent)
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Where are those stats from? I'm pretty sure Josh Allen's completion % was 52.something, and I can't see why he wouldn't qualify.
 
ChambersWI said:
Not a huge fan of giving up a 2nd.

HOWEVER

If, and that's a big if, Rosen plays up to his talent this is a steal and we go into a loaded draft next year with picks.

If he doesnt? Next two drafts are loaded with QBs and we will have picks.

We get a QB with a lot of physical talent for almost nothing. He works out great he doesnt? No harm.

I also think some of the criticisms of Rosen's character are a bit overblown as teammates like Fitz, Christian Kirk, and David Johnson (all high character guys) have defended him and are excited to see him get an opportunity.

Now let's not make a mistake, Rosen looked bad last year... but you also have to wonder how much of that was the Cards being a total dumber fire. Not that I thik he's a great QB, but look at what a difference a real offensive coaching staff made for Jared Goff from rookie to 2nd year
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Goff was a complete joke as a rookie and despite being taken #1 overall was a reach that wasn't actually a prospect the level of many of the top QB's last year. And he's turned out pretty nice.

You have to look outside the box to judge QB's as rookies, and regardless of stats Rosen actually made more positive plays last year than Goff who did next to nothing.
 
There were always real tools to work with Rosen. Goff is honestly a real good comparison to his ceiling.



I’m not even judging him off his Az tape. That was a train wreck with Steve Wilks. His career starts now. Can he master the mental and develop a good enough feel for the game is the biggest question mark. Tannehill couldn’t. I’m all for taking the risk for the cost it took, no matter what. Even if he sucks. Worthwhile gamble. Let’s see what Chad O’Shea and Jim Caldwell can do with him.
 
Personally it's a win win getting Rosen. .

Trading for Josh Rosen will not change our plans for 2020.

We have too many bullets in the gun to not pull something major off in 2020. We'll have a top 8 pick and the ammo to make a move upwards.

Josh Rosen is plan A, Fitzpatrick is plan B, 2020 QB we make a move for is plan C
 
Charley Casserly was saying that Jim Caldwell will be a great mentor. Stafford had his best years under him and PManning would jump through hoops for him.

A humbled Josh who lets himself be molded and who also learns from equally intelligent Fitzpatrick would stand a decent chance of realizing his potential.
 
We passed on a few good OL players, especially McCoy.

Miami really needs to infuse life with youth into the lines. I guess I was expecting way too much.

Same ole $hit.

Bunch of masturbating crackpots.
 
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