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Agree with every last word of this...

I've been following the conversations here and have had to laugh at the three or four who've been so visibly angry. It's almost like they think they know it all... no wait... that's exactly what they are like.
Same here. I was extremely skeptical of the Flores-Grier tandem, but they killed it in round 2. It's not that I know Rosen will be great (just as nobody knows that he won't), but that's the point. You don't know but you bought a low-price ticket for the big prize. That's really smart teams do and I love that we're that team now after the Tannenbaum clown-shoes era.
 
I like Gregg Rosenthal and he often has a positive spin on the Dolphins. He's not a homer, but he isn't an insta-critic either. He presents the best face on the Rosen situation, and we all hope he is correct. Talent was never the question with Rosen … he has it. Fit is also good, as he is highly intelligent and needs an intellectual challenge, and our offense is such a challenge and demands high intelligence. If Rosen is going to realize his talent potential, this is a good scenario for him. Now it's up to him to prove his attitude and mindset.
 
Rosen was sacked 45 times in 14 games behind the #32 offensive line.
Well Tannehill threw for almost 4k yards as a rookie behind a similar line. Good thing we drafted Michael Deiter, adding one more solid piece to the OL. And Deiter, like Jesse Davis, can run block. From what I've seen and heard of that kid we added from Jacksonville, he might be able to run block a bit too. If we can make defenses respect the run instead of selling out against the pass, maybe Fitzpatrick and Rosen will stand a chance to succeed.
 
I hope we still draft a later round QB in the name of "competition."
 
Well Tannehill threw for almost 4k yards as a rookie behind a similar line. Good thing we drafted Michael Deiter, adding one more solid piece to the OL. And Deiter, like Jesse Davis, can run block. From what I've seen and heard of that kid we added from Jacksonville, he might be able to run block a bit too. If we can make defenses respect the run instead of selling out against the pass, maybe Fitzpatrick and Rosen will stand a chance to succeed.

The 2012 line wasn’t nearly as bad as the Cards line last year and 3200 yards isn’t close to 4000.

That being said, I don’t like the idea of giving Rosen the same excuses given for Tannehill for 7 years. He should have one year and ONLY one year to prove himself, regardless of excuses.
 
I'd take this over Ted Larsen.

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That IS Ted Larsen.
 
The 2012 line wasn’t nearly as bad as the Cards line last year and 3200 yards isn’t close to 4000.

That being said, I don’t like the idea of giving Rosen the same excuses given for Tannehill for 7 years. He should have one year and ONLY one year to prove himself, regardless of excuses.
You're right, it was his 2013 season I was thinking of, when he threw for 3,913 yards. Tannehill came out early, my bad. In 2012 he only threw for 3,294 yards, so almost 3300 yards, which is indeed a big difference. Thanks for that.

Next season our OL should be better than last years, and much better than Arizona's was last year.
 
Agree with every last word of this...

I've been following the conversations here and have had to laugh at the three or four who've been so visibly angry. It's almost like they think they know it all... no wait... that's exactly what they are like.

The NFL is hard. If you always lean towards the side of negativity your chances of being right are much higher. To some being right about what they post of a silly fan message forum is the most IMPORTANT thing.
 
The 2012 line wasn’t nearly as bad as the Cards line last year and 3200 yards isn’t close to 4000.

That being said, I don’t like the idea of giving Rosen the same excuses given for Tannehill for 7 years. He should have one year and ONLY one year to prove himself, regardless of excuses.

I’d give him 2. Lawrence in 2021.
 
I’d give him 2. Lawrence in 2021.

Not willing to wait that long if I have a shot at Tua or Fromm. We'll know by the end of the year what we got. I mean, sure, there will be excuses if he sucks, but we'll know.
 
Not willing to wait that long if I have a shot at Tua or Fromm. We'll know by the end of the year what we got. I mean, sure, there will be excuses if he sucks, but we'll know.


What do we do if Rosen or Fitz play well this year, but Trevor Lawrence has another great season at Clemson? Do we still want to go and get Tua, Fromm or Herbert? Based on his Freshman season, I wait and try and get Trevor in '21 over the guys coming out next year. I know I know, if ifs and buts were beers and nuts....
 
What do we do if Rosen or Fitz play well this year, but Trevor Lawrence has another great season at Clemson? Do we still want to go and get Tua, Fromm or Herbert? Based on his Freshman season, I wait and try and get Trevor in '21 over the guys coming out next year. I know I know, if ifs and buts were beers and nuts....

If Fitz bucks his entire career and plays well all year, I still go with a top QB next draft (also means Rosen couldn't beat him out). If Rosen plays very well, great, we have our QB. If he doesn't or pulls a mediocre Tannehill, I'm moving on immediately. Enough kicking the can down the road.
 
If Fitz bucks his entire career and plays well all year, I still go with a top QB next draft (also means Rosen couldn't beat him out). If Rosen plays very well, great, we have our QB. If he doesn't or pulls a mediocre Tannehill, I'm moving on immediately. Enough kicking the can down the road.

One of the aspects of this move that bothers me is the fact (based on some assumptions
admittedly) that this staff is NOT going to expose Rosen until they are confident he's
ready for serious live bullets. Barring some transformative jihad, that means this dude
is NOT going to see action until Fitz blows OR he (Rosen) has a strong grasp of the O.
Regardless of either possibility -- I don't see that happening anywhere on the front end
of the schedule.

If I'm right -- the sample size on Rosen is gonna be pretty limited and therefore NOT
definitive -- either + or -.

How the collective deals with that, if indeed it is as stated, is a huge ??? to me.
 
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