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Not A Good Draft

Seriously?
They turned their 2nd round pick into a top 10 QB ( maybe but at least they are trying) and a 2nd round pick next year.
They are not on the hook salary wise for Rosen which is great for next 3 years cap space.
They got the 2nd best DT in Wilkins.
They got a starting OG.
They got a decent 3rd down RB.

There is way more to the draft than just the players picked. They at least are developing a plan.
 
I like the draft... we got an excellent DT with off the charts character and smarts in Wilkens....we got a top ten QB from 2018 and 2020 2nd round pick.

We got a likely starting left guard and right tackle.

A very productive runningback, we filled the fullback hole.

Not sure about the linebacker but he could be depth and competition.
 
Not upset or Happy.
I can't wait to see the final 53 .This is going to be a total different team.
 
I really like this draft. I try to be optimistic by nature, but I am ready to order tickets for opening game.
 
well, I got a good laugh out of this thread. We had 6 picks and came away with 3 starters(Wilkins/Rosen/Deiter) a rotation guy that can line up anywhere(Van Giskel) then a RT with tons of potential that could become a starter and a FB that we've been lacking for short yards situations.

But it was a bad draft?
 
Weird draft. IMHO, we did very well for most of the draft, stockpiling talent for next year with the trade downs, getting the right players with the first two picks (the most important picks) Wilkins and Deiter, but not sure we drafted any more starters. I'm not as optimistic about Rosen as most, so while it is a trade, he could become a 3rd starter and the most important piece to this draft, and I don't want to minimize what the Grier/McKenzie/Flores & the front office did, they masterfully got an extra 2nd next year by trading down, then traded for a young QB who has already been paid his bonus for a late 2nd, so that was good bargaining.

Ultimately, Rosen's success or failure will determine this entire draft. If he succeeds, we crushed it. If he doesn't … well then this becomes a subpar draft where we're rebuilding and only got 2 starters. (plus a 2nd next year).

But in the end, we needed more talent. I'm hopeful someone like Van Ginkel can work but he isn't big enough, not quite fast enough, doesn't shed blockers, needs help (scheme) to get to the QB, and looks more like a special teamer than a starting off-ball LB, and probably not an edge rusher.

Isaiah Prince is a project pure and simple. Big mauling OT with good potential and length, but he gets stood up too much, spends too much time on the ground, isn't a great pass protector, doesn't finish his blocks, and often just stops blocking before the play is finished. In short, he's a long ways from fulfilling that potential, and he looks like a guy that will be very hard to re-sign if he ever reaches that potential, and offers little until he does.

The 7th rounders never have a high chance of success, and these guys are no different, a role playing FB we could have gotten as an UDFA, and a scatback. The real meat of this draft, rounds 3-5, could have all produced starters, but we maneuvered ourselves out of most of those picks, and didn't take advantage of that value. Now, it's all riding on how Rosen works out or doesn't work out.
 
They got Rosen for backup QB salary so regardless how he performs it is a great deal. Plus adding the 2nd round pick to move up and get Tua if needed.
Next years draft is the key and critical one. Then we will see if the current regime is smart.
 
I really like this draft. I try to be optimistic by nature, but I am ready to order tickets for opening game.

It got altered by the chance to acquire a potential franchise QB.... which resulted in a 2nd rounderin 2020 as well... nothing to complain about...Rosen is a nice risk at finding the QB.
 
Not a good draft

I was wondering if there was anyone on this forum who did not like this draft at all.

For the our first pick at first I did not like the pick we made but now the big boy is growing on me.

As for the second round I'm not all that happy that we spent a second on Rosen even though we picked up another second for next year, you won't see me complain though as last year I was at the edge of my seat hoping that we drafted Rosen until Arizona crushed my dreams.

As for the rest of the draft I felt like it was horse ****, I'm not complaining, im all in for seeing how it all pans out, however I do have an early on opinion that I hope I'm wrong about.

There was all American talent all across the board in the later rounds and we passed them for players most of us are not familiar with or that was Barley productive in college.

I feel like they are trying to mold everything into the patriots way, ever since they came on board they are copying everything the patriots do and I feel like we have spend decades hating them just to follow their lead because of success?

These things come with good and bad traits, like in the lower rounds wastinf picks drafting running backs when we have huge needs in other areas. The patriots love having running backs and are always shifting through them, how about finding our guy at running back and one other guy to supplement them. Not go through 5-6 running backs a season with a few getting cut and brought back like new England does.

Can we just bring a bit of the patriots way and form our own way as well? Instead of trying to copy everything the patriots do? Seems like we are being followers in some shape or form.

Your title contradicts your comment that you aren’t complaining and that you’re going to wait to see how it plays out.

Fun.
 
Not a good draft

I was wondering if there was anyone on this forum who did not like this draft at all.

For the our first pick at first I did not like the pick we made but now the big boy is growing on me.

As for the second round I'm not all that happy that we spent a second on Rosen even though we picked up another second for next year, you won't see me complain though as last year I was at the edge of my seat hoping that we drafted Rosen until Arizona crushed my dreams.

As for the rest of the draft I felt like it was horse ****, I'm not complaining, im all in for seeing how it all pans out, however I do have an early on opinion that I hope I'm wrong about.

There was all American talent all across the board in the later rounds and we passed them for players most of us are not familiar with or that was Barley productive in college.

I feel like they are trying to mold everything into the patriots way, ever since they came on board they are copying everything the patriots do and I feel like we have spend decades hating them just to follow their lead because of success?

These things come with good and bad traits, like in the lower rounds wastinf picks drafting running backs when we have huge needs in other areas. The patriots love having running backs and are always shifting through them, how about finding our guy at running back and one other guy to supplement them. Not go through 5-6 running backs a season with a few getting cut and brought back like new England does.

Can we just bring a bit of the patriots way and form our own way as well? Instead of trying to copy everything the patriots do? Seems like we are being followers in some shape or form.

Not a good post.
 
Love Rosen or Hate Rosen at least we are trying to improve the position and I think we can all say thats good and its very overdue.

I've said for years, you miss every shot your dont take and weve taken very few shots at QB. I think Rosen sucked last year but at least hes young enough to grow. If hes really awful, hopefully we draft another one in 2020. If Rosen uses this and bounces back to have a Hall of Fame career it will be the greatest draft weve had in 35 years.

It's too early to know if it was a s*** draft or not.
 
With such low expectations and a very different regime managing the talent I don’t know how the average fan can write off the draft as a disaster. It’s not like they’re one draft away from the Super Bowl and drafted a kicker in the first round. They’re starting from nothing basically so what’s the point of nitpicking. I
 
My biggest issue with the draft, aside from the Rosen trade which I don’t like, was that it was a deep draft for dline and oline and we only got 3 guys there.
 
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