If I remember correctly that was after the Rosen deal was done sir.
Who Did We Miss Out On By Trading For Rosen?
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Though I also was hoping for Miami getting Rosen, I read that the NE Patriots were also on the trail of Rosen, so if Miami thought they needed to get Rosen a bit earlier then they hoped, so as to not lose the chance of getting him...then go for it.
Miami moving down, getting a 2nd next year, along with the pick they used to get Rosen was brilliant, and ti make things even better, the Cards will be paying I believe most to a good deal of his salary.
Miami moving down, getting a 2nd next year, along with the pick they used to get Rosen was brilliant, and ti make things even better, the Cards will be paying I believe most to a good deal of his salary.
We are NOT in the same situation Arizona was in this year. Arizona traded up to #10 to get Rosen plus paid him most of his salary already. All we gave for Rosen in a way was a 4th this year and a 5th next year and we're paying him next to nothing. Having traded for Rosen will not and should not stop us from drafting a QB high in 2020 if need be. Arizona gave up Rosen for next to nothing after investing so much in him. Some people think the Rosen trade will stop us from drafting a QB #1 in 2020 but it will not.
Best case Rosen is the real deal, we end up with the #1 pick in 2020 cause our team is not very good right now and we trade that pick for a ton of high picks and we can really load up the team with talent around Rosen plus we'll have over 100mill in cap space.
Worst case, Rosen is not the real deal and we'll draft a QB with the #1 pick in 2020.
Best case Rosen is the real deal, we end up with the #1 pick in 2020 cause our team is not very good right now and we trade that pick for a ton of high picks and we can really load up the team with talent around Rosen plus we'll have over 100mill in cap space.
Worst case, Rosen is not the real deal and we'll draft a QB with the #1 pick in 2020.
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Having an opportunity to look back over the weekend and listening to the media folks over at the sports station talk about Rosen. It's more obvious that we got a steal on paper. We don't know how he'll do in Miami. But trade value-wise we stole him and literally outside of our 5th round pick and maybe losing some slots in the 2nd round through the N.O. pick.
So many are complaining and understandably(Kinda). But what must you be thinking if you're Arizona right now?
You're entire plan rest on Murray being as good as advertised and staying healthy(because you have nothing behind him).
Personally if i were Arizona i would have tried to find a way to make it work and kept Rosen.
So many are complaining and understandably(Kinda). But what must you be thinking if you're Arizona right now?
You're entire plan rest on Murray being as good as advertised and staying healthy(because you have nothing behind him).
Personally if i were Arizona i would have tried to find a way to make it work and kept Rosen.
You’re right, it is speculation on my part. That said, I at least think it is speculation based largely in reason. Aside from the AZ incident, can you think of any other team who did not give a minimum of two years to prove themselves to any player drafted end round or higher? I can’t. Barring career ending injury or of the field problems, I cannot think of a single one.
I’m not saying it isn’t possible that Miami could pick another QB next draft, just that it is highly unlikely. I believe that to be a very reasonable view.
While I don’t think the move can be classified as a steal until Rosen proves that on the field, I could not agree more about AZ. They let their enthusiasm get in the way of their better judgment for sure. I would also say that while I am not a current fan of the move by the Dolphins, it was nice to see them not getting absolutely fleeced in a deal for once. Been a very long time since I could say that.
Can you think of any recent team who hired a fired college coach with a losing record, no prior NFL coaching experience and who just taken a demotion to USC OC before Steve Keim stumbled in? That alone should impugn AZ's judgment much more than being an indictment on Rosen whose stats were similar to Josh Allen and Sam Darnolds'.
Then add the reality that this new gimmick coach wanted a special QB capable of executing his system which had it been successful, he would not have been fired. Again, an indictment on the Cardinals, not on Rosen.
Not sure at what point I defended AZ in this? In fact, I’m sure the opposite is true. If you think nothing that happened on the football field in his rookie season was Rosen’s fault, we just need to agree to disagree.
This all the way this. As the quote and a few others have said I 100% would have selected McCoy at 48 and with Deiter in the 3rd round we have the makings of a respectable OLINE with Deiter, Tunsil, and McCoy plus 2 jags. Fixing the oline this year before drafting a QB next year is what was discussed here incessantly, and we had the opportunity to do just that.
Offering a pick next year would have been the preferable choice imo as that would have given us 3 potential solid starters to put infront of Rosen or a rookie QB next year. Hopefully the coaching can maximize the OLINE talent we currently have or we'll have another QB pissing blood soon enough.
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we missed out on Montez Sweat by drafting Christian Wilkins. DE is way more important than DT
A lot of teams missed out on him for obvious reasons. We couldn't afford that.
According to the "this draft sucks" OP, the guy we (and the rest of the NFL for that matter) really missed out on is Tyree Jackson.
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We made the right decision. Sweat probably wont see the snaps Wilkins will. Maybe even over the entire course of their careers.
Erik McCoy would have been the pick I think at 62