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Again, throwing out statistics without any context...

UCLA is pretty devoid of talent...7 guys including Rosen went in the first two days (rounds 1, 2, and 3) of the NFL draft over 4 years (I mentioned this year's draft as Rosen played with them the season before). During that same time...Alabama had 12....1st rounders! Now I understand that Alabama is the greatest football machine in modern college football, but you get the point that some teams are more talented than others.
He's not providing context because it weakens his agenda.
 
Here are some other random immaterial stats I also wouldn't want to hang my hat on.

As pros: PManning 3-13 first year, Troy Aikman 0-11 first year, John Elway 4-6 first year, Steve Young 4-20 first 2 , years. Drew Brees 10-17 first 2 years

As Collgiates:
Gabbert 18-8, Tyrod Taylor 34-8, Dalton 42-8, Case Keenum 37-14, Blake Bortles 22-5
 
I believe that was UCLA’s record from 2015-17 When Rosen was under center there, with one bowl appearance in 2015. I think everyone need to temper their exuberance over our new quarterback.

2016 — Jared Goff, California, 14-23 (.378)
 
Awesome, the vaunted #QBwinz stat, which has close to zero relevance.

Jay Cutler (11-34 in four seasons at Vanderbilt)
John Elway (20-23 at Stanford)
Matt Hasselbeck (9-14 at Boston College)
Patrick Mahomes (13-16 at Texas Tech)
Love the Mahomes stat for various reasons.

First it drives home the reality about college statistics not necessarily being a precursor to the NFL experiences.

Secondly, if Kliff ****ing Kingsbury couldn't carve out a winning record with Mahomes, I don't know who he could have had one with! And his being fired with his so-far unsuccessful gimmick "system" resulting in a de facto demotion to USC OC until Steve Keim stumbled in to me infers that if AZ had a better GM and owner, Kingsbury would be at USC.....

.......and Rosen would be starting his second season in AZ with high hopes that his traditional skill set would be better utilized by better coaching..
 
Love the Mahomes stat for various reasons.

First it drives home the reality about college statistics not necessarily being a precursor to the NFL experiences.

Secondly, if Kliff ****ing Kingsbury couldn't carve out a winning record with Mahomes, I don't know who he could have had one with! And his being fired with his so-far unsuccessful gimmick "system" resulting in a de facto demotion to USC OC until Steve Keim stumbled in to me infers that if AZ had a better GM and owner, Kingsbury would be at USC.....

.......and Rosen would be starting his second season in AZ with high hopes that his traditional skill set would be better utilized by better coaching..


People tend to forget Peyton was 0-4 against Florida. They knocked him for not being able to win the big games.

Tee Martin came right behind him and won the national title for Tennessee the next year. You have to evaluate the traits first. Then use statistics or analytics to illustrate a point if you choose. But numbers can't make a point by themselves when discussing quarterbacks.
 
Here are some other random immaterial stats I also wouldn't want to hang my hat on.

As pros: PManning 3-13 first year, Troy Aikman 0-11 first year, John Elway 4-6 first year, Steve Young 4-20 first 2 , years. Drew Brees 10-17 first 2 years

As Collgiates:
Gabbert 18-8, Tyrod Taylor 34-8, Dalton 42-8, Case Keenum 37-14, Blake Bortles 22-5
great post and research.
 
Is there a point to it?
Yes, his point is that he didn't like our acquisition of the fins' most naturally talented QB since Marino,

...he gets cognitive dissonance when so many of us are hopeful he succeeds and don't have to go back to the well for a 2020 QB who may or may not be better or even as good

.......and as such is looking to dampen enthusiasm cuz "misery loves company."
 
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