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Missed Opportunity Amidst Optimism With Dolphins' Draft

Viggen said:
Want to feel better.

We essentially got minkah instead of Rosen last year. (I know Arizona jumped us 1 pick)

So who would you have taken over minkah this year that was there at 48 or 62?

Minkah and Rosen better together
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Well when you put it like that
 
Coming into this draft we had big needs at QB,DE,Corner,4 spots on the O-line other than LT, RB and WR to a point.

We had 7 picks and after trading back in the 2nd round we ended up with only 6 picks. We would have needed about 10 picks to hit every position of need. They can not fix every need with one draft guys. They got a lot of UDFA's plus I believe 7 guys from the AAF.
 
raving said:
Talent will shake lose in the next 3 months - trades will come available - salary cap casualties - dramas between players and there respective front offices - expect Miami to do be busier then many out there as Tannenbaum and Gase left the Dolphins house looking worse then a hotel room after Keith Moon got to it with maximum partying and debauchery!!
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This year is about establishing a bedrock for the rebuild. I don't see us being real players in the FA market. If anything, I look for us to target more guys like Dwayne Allen--veteran grinders who are willing to set the bar for work ethic and following the coaches on and off the field. Guys who will live in the film room, work tirelessly after practice on their fundamental techniques, and sacrifice their time and personal gains for team gains. Guys who are willing to go the extra mile to win, rather than enjoy their fame and money.

In free agency, I expect us to wait until the big names are off the board, and get those grinders, those grizzled veterans who will be role models and team players. Their real roles aren't to plug a line or fill in a slot … but rather to set the tone for the young guys for the next 10 years. So, don't be surprised if we pass on the "best" free agents, because it's not what we're going for this year.
 
As long as reshad is here strong chance fitz is the other starting boundary db
 
If this draft produces as many quality corners as some people say that it should result in some decent vets losing a job and becoming available.
 
The coaching staff must like what they have on the roster to a certain extent to not take a corner. While other opportunities will present themselves in the coming months for picking up a corner. I'd like to see guy on the roster step up and take the job. Any of the young guys will do. Tankersley would be ideal considering draft investment 2 years ago. Our coaching staff has their work cut out for them.
 
Eric rowe if healthy will start for us.. big if..
Also they noted before that TJ lost 15lbs..
They probably like the top 6 in the secondary but we need 8 guys that can perform
 
mmikel30 said:
Well Dieter was not A BPA pick
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I only believe in the strategy for the first round maybe second after that there is a huge drop in chances of finding a starting player. If you cant find a starter in the first 15 picks drafting bpa then you dont belong drafting in the nfl.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
First, I had my top 3 needs as OL, DE, CB. I didn't get the DE or CB. That said, I'm not unhappy with the draft. Wilkins was the best DLman on the board, getting Rosen and a '20 2nd for this year's 2nd was a good decision, and one of the top OGs in the 3rd made this a good draft. Certainly, no one knows how good/bad these players will be, but I have no complaints with the strategy..
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How could you not have had QB on the list of top needs? Just curious.
 
killafinz said:
Everybody before the draft...you always take bpa, everyone after the draft....we should have taken a de, qb, cb...blah blah. We took the bpa and articles like this are trash clickbait.
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Totally agree. Can’t have it both ways. They selected the most talented players they feel will fit in with their system. And there are 31 other teams involved so you can’t get every player you want.

The only thing I question is trading a 2nd for Rosen. I know the consensus is that it’s a great move — especially after trading down once in the round. But I would have liked to see them play their hand a little stronger.

Once teams like the Giants and Broncos selected QB’s, the list of potential suitors for Rosen dwindled. The Cardinals had little to no leverage. I would have held firm on trading the Dolphins 3rd round pick and would have tried like hell for a 4th rounder. I surely wouldn’t have included the 2020 5th rounder unless it was with a lower pick. Assuming AZ said ‘no’, I would have called their bluff and said ‘keep him’. They couldn’t. Not realistically. Too much risk of negative fall out.

The only drawback to that strategy was another team offering more. But was there one? It surely wouldn’t have been any of the teams that selected a QB in the 1st.
 
EJay said:
Once teams like the Giants and Broncos selected QB’s, the list of potential suitors for Rosen dwindled. The Cardinals had little to no leverage. I would have held firm on trading the Dolphins 3rd round pick and would have tried like hell for a 4th rounder. I surely wouldn’t have included the 2020 5th rounder unless it was with a lower pick. Assuming AZ said ‘no’, I would have called their bluff and said ‘keep him’. They couldn’t. Not realistically. Too much risk of negative fall out.

The only drawback to that strategy was another team offering more. But was there one? It surely wouldn’t have been any of the teams that selected a QB in the 1st.
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That's not how value works. Value transcends positional need. The sharpest teams understand that and embrace it. You can't merely look at which teams apparently needed a quarterback. That's the mistake many people are making. If the draft had slipped further then many teams that didn't need a quarterback would have inquired about Rosen. One of them would have swooped him up...our opportunity gone. It would have been the same type of flawed thinking that led us to keep Tannehill for 7 years without competition.

The sharpest guy I met in Las Vegas taught me to just keep making good bets, whether I liked them or not. If I saw something out of whack then grab it, whether it was a pointspread, or a money line, or a prop wager. He was 100% correct. Once I started doing that it was amazing how the bottom line cooperated. I walked around feeling like a thief. Those were the days when every casino had its own independent sportsbook and none of them communicated with each other. Legwork was everything.

The same principal applies to Tua next year. If some team has the first pick and seemingly doesn't need a quarterback, that doesn't mean they don't need and won't draft Tua.

Gaps at that position are enormous. Arizona made the correct move and the Dolphins made the correct exploratory move.
 
We got a top ten drafted QB a year early.... if he works out we can use all those picks next year to build around him... and acquire more future draft capital... we might have drafted a CB this year and we might not have regardless of the trade.

I think C Erik McCoy would have been our pick at 62.

You also have to remember getting a 2020 2nd rounder and Rosen in this draft haul!
 
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