I don't see that happening because I doubt the Dolphins would pass on Tua if they have the first pick next year. I don't see them waiting two years if they can get their QB next year.
How Would Josh Rosen Need To Perform In 2019 For You To Forgo Drafting A 1st Round Qb In 2020?
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I don't see that happening because I doubt the Dolphins would pass on Tua if they have the first pick next year. I don't see them waiting two years if they can get their QB next year.
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That sounds good to me. I just don't believe that we are going to take another QB next year unless Rosen sucks badly. No rookie is a sure thing and, like you said, they are all different. I think building around Rosen for a couple of years is the correct choice unless he is irrecoverably terrible. Too much talent at a great price to cast aside. FWIW, I don't think we'll ultimately be as bad as projected either so first pick is no lock either.
If they end up with the first overall pick next year, I don't see how they would pass on drafting Tua no matter how Rosen looks this season because that would mean Rosen wasn't that impressive regardless of the talent around him.
Spot on bro. I think unless he totally blows (which I don't see) and it's clearly evident it's 100% him and not his supporting cast, we're not drafting a QB next year. I agree I don't think we're going to be as bad as many suspect we are going to be.
How did things work out for that #1 Jamarcus Russell pick? No player, especially a QB is guaranteed success. Now don't go off on me arguing they're two different players, they are, but no one knows what will happen for sure. It's easy now to in hindsight to say how terrible the Russell pick was, but no one was saying that pre-draft in 2007. The hindsight comparison is not the point. A bird in hand is better than two in the bush...
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He has to lead the offense, score points, come from behind to win and score enough to win 75% of the games we play (not actually win 75% but score enough - like 24 points or more). If we lose because of bad defense or the defense gives up the last drive, that is beyond his control. He and our offense will have bad days at the office but that should never go on for weeks. He should be able to adjust to what the other team is doing to slow down our offense, show enough mobility to avoid sacks and have stats like 4,000 yards, 30 Td’s and 14 or fewer Ints. That’s about it.
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Agree. If the criteria is Rosen plays at an elite level or get a replacement, and that's the league standard, the Bills, the Jets, and a few others will be after a QB. I suspect, if Rosen plays well and shows progress, a top QB next year is low priority.
And who is to say that Josh Rosen isn't going to be a bust? He could be like Jamarcus Russell as well. And for every Jamarcus Russell, there is a Baker Mayfield or Andrew Luck. And last time I checked, Jamarcus Russell didn't throw for 43 TD's in a season like Tua did last year.
I never said Rosen was going wasn't going to be a bust. And Jamarcus Russell was used as an example of the situation, not for QB comparison's sake. I clearly stated that. Insert any of the multiple QB names who were touted as the next big thing that busted out. Happens all the time. Is Tua currently a good quarterback? Yes. Is he guaranteed, superstar? No.
Wow, someone actually gets it. Thank you!
Ya well I don't think the Dolphins would pass on the chance of drafting Tua next year regardless of having Rosen on the roster. That was my point.
Imagine the trade value you would have with that first pick. With Tua on the board, that pick is worth a ton. You would reap a king's ransom if you were to trade it. Just what a team rebuilding could use. That's ONLY if Rosen is trash.
I would argue (for lack of a better word) that the real prize will be the following year in Lawrence.
I would still draft Tua in that case because if the Dolphins end up with the worst record this season, that probably means Rosen didn't play that good and they can't afford to wait to find out if he is the long term answer or not. If you have a chance to draft a potential franchise QB, you do it because you don't get that opportunity very often.