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Rosen Pick Can Harm Fins

Waiting for people backpedaling if Tua has an okay year or gets hurt.

Organizations get better when players they bring in play well....perio.
 
Jay131866 said:
I understand what you are saying, but the chance to draft in the top 5 picks in a year that happens to be touted as one of the best QB classes in decades, does not come around often obviously. Unless by the end of the year everyone is convinced that Rosen will be a better pro than Tua, Fromm, and Herbert, I would still take a QB next year...even if Rosen outplays him in 2020.
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Just curious. If Rosen outplays him, what do you think Flores will do?
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
The main argument for acquiring Rosen is that he has a chance to be good, for a minimal price.

The flaw here is that most posters say “hey, if he bombs then we just go QB in 2020”. No downside, right?

Wrong.

It is VERY likely that he wins the starting job early on, and with a year already under his belt, he may grind us to 6 or 7 wins.

If that happens, most likely in my opinion, we will be out of the sweepstakes for a top QB in 2020. Trust me when I say that a QB needy team will not trade out of their top spot/s I’m 2020, regardless of the compensation offered.

So, a likely outcome is Fins in a draft purgatory position, again.

The only workaround is to start Fitzcake for the entirety (or most) of the season. And then let Rosen and Tua/Fromm etc battle for the starting position in 2020.
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He just quarterbacked his team to the top pick in the draft a few weeks ago, maybe you missed it?
 
Every year people think we're going to be an 10-11 win team when we've been a 7-8 win team.

This season people think "we're going to be DECENT" and win 7 games when we look like a 4 win team.

4-12, maybe 5-11 if we're lucky... we are going to suck.
 
Brumdog45 said:
Waiting for people backpedaling if Tua has an okay year or gets hurt.

Organizations get better when players they bring in play well....perio.
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Keep waiting brother I doubt he’s going to do anything but shine with that much talent around him.
 
If we miss out on a qb with a chance to be elite as a result? Of course
 
Try to look at it this way. Rosen, if coming out in this recent draft, would have been the second or 3rd QB off the board. He's got the 6'4" height, he's prototypical size of a big time drop back QB. He can really spin it, that's what a number of scouts has said. He can throw every pass even into the tightest of windows. He is what we need at QB, all we have to do is build a great offense around him, which includes a running game, a quality o-line and some speedy wide outs and we'll put up plenty of points. Patience will be required because he's a new QB, playing in a new scheme with new coaches. They need to take it slow with Rosen and let him build confidence and develop chemistry with his teammates. Now, try to look at it this way-we traded Tannehill for Rosen, I, for one, had seen enough of Ryan so I'm excited and optimistic. BTW, if Rosen washes out, we still will get our man in 2020. We have mucho draft capitol. But, something tells me we have a fit with Rosen, O'Shea, Flores and Caldwell. In no way have people seen Rosen's ceiling. This, 22 year old will get better and better imo. He finally will get the coaching he needs with Caldwell. I'm eager to see what will happen!
 
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Atila said:
Every year people think we're going to be an 10-11 win team when we've been a 7-8 win team.

This season people think "we're going to be DECENT" and win 7 games when we look like a 4 win team.

4-12, maybe 5-11 if we're lucky... we are going to suck.
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Where have you read that people are saying we're going to be decent and win 7 games? The majority of folks have been predicting anywhere from 2-5 games tops.
 
ANUFan said:
Where have you read that people are saying we're going to be decent and win 7 games? The majority of folks have been predicting anywhere from 2-5 games tops.
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There's a handful here. I've seen it too.
 
ANUFan said:
Where have you read that people are saying we're going to be decent and win 7 games? The majority of folks have been predicting anywhere from 2-5 games tops.
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Everyone who seems insistent that starting Fitzpatrick or Rosen is a mistake because they will get 6/7 wins and take us out range of the #1 pick.
 
TeeMoney said:
He just quarterbacked his team to the top pick in the draft a few weeks ago, maybe you missed it?
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Actually so did his HC, his 2 sub-standard OCs and heaven knows how many Oline 2nd rate, hurt, and refuse-recyled O linemen "protecting" him. But Rosen with his 3-10 record (and who knows what would have happened if he started the other 3 games) is in good company, Manning's rookie 3-13 season would have also put them in contention for the 2019 first pick.
 
The 2020 class will have Herbert for sure as he is a senior.
More than likely Tua and Fromm will declare, cause at this moment they along with Herbert are top 3 picks. However, we have seen before where the junior QB has a down/or less than expected year and stays for their senior year. Maybe it happens to one of them, maybe not.

We have also seen that some QB's are taken later in the first, who end up pretty good in Rodgers and Mahommes.

Could see guys like Eason(Washington), Jordan Love(Utah State), and KJ Costello(Stanford) could also have a good 2019 year to make a push as QB's you could build that should be around if they don't pick super high.
 
meatpardle said:
Everyone who seems insistent that starting Fitzpatrick or Rosen is a mistake because they will get 6/7 wins and take us out range of the #1 pick.
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It's only a mistake if we're targeting the 2020 Class - which unless something doesn't work out - we aren't
 
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