Rosen Highlight Film

Danny said:

Two things that I like by watching those. First, he's moving well in the pocket which Tannehill never did well.
But what I really liked was that Rosen was making plays with his legs on the fly. Tannehill could run but mostly when that was the called play. He was never really good at improvising on the fly. When things broke down it was a sack. I see Rosen takes off when thing break down and yes, I'm aware he was sacked 45 times but that O-line was horrible. Time will tell but there seems to be something there.

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I think the key for Rosen will be to be assertive yet play within himself and the system. You want to be aggressive, but not out of control. Take what the defense gives you and play to win on every play. When the defense gambles make them pay! Oh, and hold yourself and your teammates accountable. It’s not ok to suck.

Beach Bum 91 said:

I think the key for Rosen will be to be assertive yet play within himself and the system. You want to be aggressive, but not out of control. Take what the defense gives you and play to win on every play. When the defense gambles make them pay! Oh, and hold yourself and your teammates accountable. It’s not ok to suck.

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That last thing you said there is a big thing. Tannehill, bless his heart was a nice guy but he always seemed to be ok with everything regardless of how bad the offense was playing. At some point you need to take charge and be the leader and let everyone know that a 3 and out on your first 5 drives is not ok.

mrbunglez said:

I’d also add that Tannehill had a stronger arm than Rosen.

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maybe, but I've watch RT since he started and he never really had touch... either over thrown or under thrown his receivers, but i do see Rosen has a better touch pass and can sling as well... but time will tell for sure.
i also got to say i wasn't very happy when the trade went down but i seem to be warming up to it lately, thinking about the value of the actual trade and the prospect of Trevor Lawrence in two years if Rosen doesn't pan out...
not a huge fan of Tua or any of the QB's next year...

mike_vee said:

maybe, but I've watch RT since he started and he never really had touch... either over thrown or under thrown his receivers, but i do see Rosen has a better touch pass and can sling as well... but time will tell for sure.
i also got to say i wasn't very happy when the trade went down but i seem to be warming up to it lately, thinking about the value of the actual trade and the prospect of Trevor Lawrence in two years if Rosen doesn't pan out...
not a huge fan of Tua or any of the QB's next year...

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bullshit. One of RTs strength was accuracy. He had great touch.

You guys just can't quit Tannehill can you

PhxSunFan34 said:

bullshit. One of RTs strength was accuracy. He had great touch.

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I was a huge supporter of Tannehill until I wasn’t.

Don’t mistake accuracy for touch. I don’t think I ever saw Tannehill throw with real touch. Accurate on an inside post to Stills on a rope? Sure.

But the way Rivers or Goff float a perfect dime in between two defenders on the sideline where it almost floats?

That is touch.

I just liked seeing the 3rd and long completions from Rosen, especially on a couple where he was backed up to his endzone. If only we could have seen that a bit more from tannehill. Hopefully that will help our defense stay off the field a bit more

chuck dezl said:

I just liked seeing the 3rd and long completions from Rosen, especially on a couple where he was backed up to his endzone. If only we could have seen that a bit more from tannehill. Hopefully that will help our defense stay off the field a bit more

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It would be refreshing to see more throws beyond the sticks on 3rd downs. Still not entirely sure how much of that was Tannehill vs coaching. Have to see if Gase does the same thing in NY.

Some excellent throws, I know it’s a highlight film but he is a rookie showing a lot of potential. I guess he has a lot more upside than Luke Falk.

gregorygrant83 said:

I think we see what we want to see. I'm not saying Rosen will or won't be better than Tannehill, but if you're judging Rosen by his highlight tape I would say if you gauged both players that way you would walk away equally impressed.

If you're going to say Rosen has better pocket awareness you would also Tannehill makes better reads, gets the ball out faster, stands in the pocket and shows a better arm. Now of course Tannehill should look better in some areas considering his experience, but some of us need to give Rosen an honest chance and others might need to pump the breaks before putting unrealistic expectations on the kid. At this point he could develop into the Dolphins answer at qb, a decent back up or the next AJ Feeley.

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Wait...so you're comparing Rosen's rookie season to Tannehill's season last year as an established veteran? I'm hoping if Rosen looks like that in 2024, he has a different uniform on.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Dolphins had a huge hand in thoroughly screwing up Tannehill's career, and there are things he could do that I've very, very rarely seen in the NFL (for example, accurate downfield throws while running full-speed to his left), but Rosen's history suggests that he's simply a more natural QB.

The Goat said:

Wait...so you're comparing Rosen's rookie season to Tannehill's season last year as an established veteran? I'm hoping if Rosen looks like that in 2024, he has a different uniform on.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Dolphins had a huge hand in thoroughly screwing up Tannehill's career, and there are things he could do that I've very, very rarely seen in the NFL (for example, accurate downfield throws while running full-speed to his left), but Rosen's history suggests that he's simply a more natural QB.

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MY point is/was that if you go by highlight films to determine that Rosen is a good qb in some areas than if you did the same thing with Tannehill's highlight reel of last year you would walk away saying he's better in more areas and looks like a good qb. The point was to pump the breaks on some of the Rosen expectations for 2019. While some people are underrating him others going too far the other way. We don't know what we have in Rosen, he might be good, he might be poor or just average... time will tell.

I think it's a bit unfair to try and say lets see what the kid looks like in his second season, his first year with a new team and new offense and try to determine from that if he's a future back up or franchise qb. Especially considering the team around him is in a rebuilding process. I would expect him to look improved in some areas over last year, but I wouldn't expect top 10 or 15 passing numbers from the kid just yet. One thing I think Rose will be his best once he's been in an offense for a few years and everything is second nature and he doesn't have to over process things. Being surround with decent protection will also help. I don't know if those things are going to be improved enough in year two to get a true read on what Rosen might be.

PhxSunFan34 said:

bullshit. One of RTs strength was accuracy. He had great touch.

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Really? i can think of only 1 pass that he hit a receiver in full stride, but i can think of many that the receiver had to slow down or dive to catch or change direction and lose momentum and slow down and get caught by a defender.

mike_vee said:

Really? i can think of only 1 pass that he hit a receiver in full stride, but i can think of many that the receiver had to slow down or dive to catch or change direction and lose momentum and slow down and get caught by a defender.

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Sounds like shoddy memory to me.

mike_vee said:

Really? i can think of only 1 pass that he hit a receiver in full stride, but i can think of many that the receiver had to slow down or dive to catch or change direction and lose momentum and slow down and get caught by a defender.

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So of the nearly 3000 pass attempts by Tannehill you think he only hit one receiver in stride? I guess I just saw things different. I guess either you watched a lot of those passes with a pre determined mind to dislike him or I watched them him with rose tinted glasses. I'm not saying he was the perfect qb, but I can look at that 2018 highlight reel alone and see several passes that hit a receiver in stride, to say he only had one pass in his career seems a bit far fetched to me.

PhxSunFan34 said:

Sounds like shoddy memory to me.

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nah, pretty good memory, but i watched the RT highlights in the video post 2-3 post before mine. and if you watch it all his passes that he hit his rec's in stride are from 3-5 yards out which tell you the truth i can do, but anything over 20 yards, i don't know what you looked at but to me they look like all the receivers are either diving or slowing down to catch a ball... but i guess ones opinion is another argument.