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It concerns me because everyone on this site always wrong about everything and then they do the standard revionist excuse making for thinking ridiculous notions. Like when people liked and still think Tannehill was the answer for us with a better oline when he obviously wasnt since the moment we drafted him.

These rose colored homer glasses do not allow for logical assesement of simple metrics. Furthermore the media is also calling this a slam dunk, yet they are all mostly prognosticating that we will pick first or be a bottom feeder team that will go for a QB again next year. How does that make sense?

What that lets me know is that the media, thinks we got a good deal for a very bad player. So much so that they are predicting us to go from the 13th worst team last year to a bottom 5 bad team this coming year. Why would that make me optimistic?

I think we are illusioned with what the media says but I think the media knows less about the Phins then us fans do... And we fans know jack squat... Me included... But I can do math... And the statistical indicators do not bode well for us.

Hopefully this is one of those areas where numbers dont quite describe the tale of the tape. But those instances arent common.

Without getting too far into it....we'll never know if Tannehill could have been the answer with a quality line...because he never had one. All that was managed to be proven in his time here was that he wasn't good enough to overcome the circumstances around him.

My question is this: Do you really think people being optimistic is going to have the slightest bit of bearing on whether or not Rosen performs well?

And if not...why worry about it?
 
Of course I did. The main excuse everyone gives for his play was his bad oline... But we have the worst oline in the league next to them. That doesnt necessarily make me think we have the catalyst to change him from horrible to decent..

Rosen played with Larry Fitzgerald one of the greatest wr's to ever play the game. Watch his higlights and tell me how many great catches Larry made for him. A ton. He wont have that security blanket here. Wait til Rosen meets Jakeem "Hands of Stone" Grant.

We are one Laremy Tunsil injury from being the worst oline in the league. Maybe if we had actually done something to change that fact then maybe I would feel better about his chances. Like I said I hope I am wrong.

Jakeem Grant had one drop in 2018.

Interestingly, the guy who had the most was a Dolphin.

In 2017.
 
Of course I did. The main excuse everyone gives for his play was his bad oline... But we have the worst oline in the league next to them. That doesnt necessarily make me think we have the catalyst to change him from horrible to decent..

Rosen played with Larry Fitzgerald one of the greatest wr's to ever play the game. Watch his higlights and tell me how many great catches Larry made for him. A ton. He wont have that security blanket here. Wait til Rosen meets Jakeem "Hands of Stone" Grant.

We are one Laremy Tunsil injury from being the worst oline in the league. Maybe if we had actually done something to change that fact then maybe I would feel better about his chances. Like I said I hope I am wrong.

In all this tape watchin you do you still call Jakeem stone hands?

I think you got some corrupted tape on ya hands.
 
It concerns me because everyone on this site always wrong about everything and then they do the standard revionist excuse making for thinking ridiculous notions. Like when people liked and still think Tannehill was the answer for us with a better oline when he obviously wasnt since the moment we drafted him.

These rose colored homer glasses do not allow for logical assesement of simple metrics. Furthermore the media is also calling this a slam dunk, yet they are all mostly prognosticating that we will pick first or be a bottom feeder team that will go for a QB again next year. How does that make sense?

What that lets me know is that the media, thinks we got a good deal for a very bad player. So much so that they are predicting us to go from the 13th worst team last year to a bottom 5 bad team this coming year. Why would that make me optimistic?

I think we are illusioned with what the media says but I think the media knows less about the Phins then us fans do... And we fans know jack squat... Me included... But I can do math... And the statistical indicators do not bode well for us.

Hopefully this is one of those areas where numbers dont quite describe the tale of the tape. But those instances arent common.
For what it's worth, Bradford started the first 3 games. We don't know whether Rosen's 3-10 record would have been better or as bad as PManning's 1998 3-13 record. It's true that Manning through a lot of TDs but he threw even more interceptions! What you might not know is that even with the great Marshall Faulk gaining 1300 yards on the ground and more than 900 through the air, Peyton only managed to win 3 games in his rookie season.

The major difference is that in those days the Colts had too much invested in their draft pick to bail. Who's to say they wouldn't have in the 1999 draft, thereby tarring Manning as a loser?

As it stands, Rosen is the best pocket passer to come out of the 2018 draft; based on that letter to us and to a few AZ fans who came in, that hasn't changed. Pro Tua advocates rave about his comeback victory to defeat Georgia in the Title game. Rosen has an even bigger college comeback on his resume to beat Texas A&M.
 
Of course I did. The main excuse everyone gives for his play was his bad oline... But we have the worst oline in the league next to them. That doesnt necessarily make me think we have the catalyst to change him from horrible to decent..

Rosen played with Larry Fitzgerald one of the greatest wr's to ever play the game. Watch his higlights and tell me how many great catches Larry made for him. A ton. He wont have that security blanket here. Wait til Rosen meets Jakeem "Hands of Stone" Grant.

We are one Laremy Tunsil injury from being the worst oline in the league. Maybe if we had actually done something to change that fact then maybe I would feel better about his chances. Like I said I hope I am wrong.
I’m not a Rosen fan, but I can see were the issues were. But I do find it humorous that you use Grant for your comparison to Larry Fitzgerald.
He was our 4th or 5th WR last year. Not sure I trust your assessment on the situation.
 
In all this tape watchin you do you still call Jakeem stone hands?

I think you got some corrupted tape on ya hands.

I was mostly insinuating that he has stone hands compared to Larry Fitz. And while I agree his hands have gotten better with the years, it continues to be his biggest fault as a player in my opinion, and has been his glaring issue keeping him from being a #1 all these years.
 
It concerns me because everyone on this site always wrong about everything and then they do the standard revionist excuse making for thinking ridiculous notions. Like when people liked and still think Tannehill was the answer for us with a better oline when he obviously wasnt since the moment we drafted him.
It concerns me because "everyone on this site always wrong about everything" :lmfao:

What concerns me is that statement. ...Repeat that to yourself and see if that makes even a little sense.

You actually have it backwards. A majority of the fans on this site are very in tuned whats going on and are correct probably 75% of the time.

These rose colored homer glasses do not allow for logical assesement of simple metrics. Furthermore the media is also calling this a slam dunk, yet they are all mostly prognosticating that we will pick first or be a bottom feeder team that will go for a QB again next year. How does that make sense?

The "rose color glasses" cliché, such a corny phrase and used when it fits someones agenda with little substance.

It's almost as corny as the "drink the koolaid" cliché.

Not much of what you just said makes sense.
 
It concerns me because everyone on this site always wrong about everything and then they do the standard revionist excuse making for thinking ridiculous notions. Like when people liked and still think Tannehill was the answer for us with a better oline when he obviously wasnt since the moment we drafted him.

These rose colored homer glasses do not allow for logical assesement of simple metrics. Furthermore the media is also calling this a slam dunk, yet they are all mostly prognosticating that we will pick first or be a bottom feeder team that will go for a QB again next year. How does that make sense?

What that lets me know is that the media, thinks we got a good deal for a very bad player. So much so that they are predicting us to go from the 13th worst team last year to a bottom 5 bad team this coming year. Why would that make me optimistic?

I think we are illusioned with what the media says but I think the media knows less about the Phins then us fans do... And we fans know jack squat... Me included... But I can do math... And the statistical indicators do not bode well for us.

Hopefully this is one of those areas where numbers dont quite describe the tale of the tape. But those instances arent common.
The typical 'If you disagree with me, you're an idiot' post.
 
I was mostly insinuating that he has stone hands compared to Larry Fitz. And while I agree his hands have gotten better with the years, it continues to be his biggest fault as a player in my opinion, and has been his glaring issue keeping him from being a #1 all these years.

Larry was the #1 option.

Jakeem is a 4th or 5th option.

That's how unexplosive Arizona was at WR.
 
I was mostly insinuating that he has stone hands compared to Larry Fitz. And while I agree his hands have gotten better with the years, it continues to be his biggest fault as a player in my opinion, and has been his glaring issue keeping him from being a #1 all these years.
To be fair, few recievers have as good of hands as Fitzgerald.

Grant had issues his rookie year, and that was primarily as a returner. It hasn't been a major issue since, and as another poster pointed out, he was basically the #4 guy last season.

Grant would never be a #1, by the way.
 
I was mostly insinuating that he has stone hands compared to Larry Fitz. And while I agree his hands have gotten better with the years, it continues to be his biggest fault as a player in my opinion, and has been his glaring issue keeping him from being a #1 all these years.[/
Again you’re comparing a number one receiver to a receiver that’s fourth or fifth of the depth chart, and You are out of your mind if you think Grant ever had a chance of becoming a number one if his hands were better. I’ll admit that I’m not that great of an evaluator, but I’ve evaluated your posts are nonsense.
 
It concerns me because everyone on this site always wrong about everything and then they do the standard revionist excuse making for thinking ridiculous notions. Like when people liked and still think Tannehill was the answer for us with a better oline when he obviously wasnt since the moment we drafted him.

These rose colored homer glasses do not allow for logical assesement of simple metrics. Furthermore the media is also calling this a slam dunk, yet they are all mostly prognosticating that we will pick first or be a bottom feeder team that will go for a QB again next year. How does that make sense?

What that lets me know is that the media, thinks we got a good deal for a very bad player. So much so that they are predicting us to go from the 13th worst team last year to a bottom 5 bad team this coming year. Why would that make me optimistic?

I think we are illusioned with what the media says but I think the media knows less about the Phins then us fans do... And we fans know jack squat... Me included... But I can do math... And the statistical indicators do not bode well for us.

Hopefully this is one of those areas where numbers dont quite describe the tale of the tape. But those instances arent common.
How can EVERYONE be ALWAYS wrong on this site when this site is always divided about everything and everyone?
I don't ever recall a time when EVERYONE on this board agreed on anything.
 
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