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Dolphins Making Moves

SCLSU Mud Dogs said:
Star rating has nothing to do with success in the NFL
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I wouldnt say it has nothing to do with success in the NFL... Im pretty sure there is a positive correlation there, might not be significant though. I'll check if I can my hands on some useable data on the subject.
 
Digital said:
Hey, churning through these guys is how the Patriots do it, and they eventually find competent people for every position across their offensive line. I'm all in favor of continually turning over new rocks until we find the stone to build our wall.
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I think it should be highly noted the Pats way really stopped working when their oline coach retired and started working again when he was rehired. Which I am going to be very interested in how Rizi replacement performs this year.
 
phintim said:
I think it should be highly noted the Pats way really stopped working when their oline coach retired and started working again when he was rehired. Which I am going to be very interested in how Rizi replacement performs this year.
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Well every team in the NFL would like to have Scarnechia (sp?), but we have to work with what we've got. In the past the Dolphins have been burned by sticking with projects for too long and not seeking out people who could produce right now. Personally, in this age of free agency, I'm much happier looking for OL who may have a bit lower ceiling but can produce reliably and quickly, so we can get use from their relatively inexpensive rookie contracts for 4 years, and resign them for reasonable sums and keep them another 5-6 years and build a long term solution along the OL. The Patriots way of drafting OL seems to be tailor-made for getting a solid OL in place and keeping it for a decade.

The problem with projects is that it takes 3+ years to develop them, and during that time, they're not very productive. Then when they are productive in year 4, they're FA's and now command too high of a salary, like Ju'Wuan James. Of course, if they don't work out, we just forget them and get no years of productive play.

Drafting Michael Deiter was perfect, IMHO. He represents that Patriot way fantastically. He is a very good run blocker, and a solid pass protector, but has a reasonable ceiling. So, he'll produce immediately and give us 4 years of good LG play. Then, when his contract nears its end and he becomes a FA after year 4, his ceiling isn't as high as some on the market, and he probably will not command such a high price that we cannot re-sign him. Also, he's a true ironman, having played 54 consecutive games in college at Wisconsin. Every year our OL's biggest problem is durability. It's not talent, it's keeping the talent on the field that is the biggest challenge. Deiter looks like the perfect choice for this Patriots OL philosophy. I'm hoping for 2 or 3 more just like him in the 2020 draft, so we can finally fix the OL long term.
 
Digital said:
Well every team in the NFL would like to have Scarnechia (sp?), but we have to work with what we've got. In the past the Dolphins have been burned by sticking with projects for too long and not seeking out people who could produce right now. Personally, in this age of free agency, I'm much happier looking for OL who may have a bit lower ceiling but can produce reliably and quickly, so we can get use from their relatively inexpensive rookie contracts for 4 years, and resign them for reasonable sums and keep them another 5-6 years and build a long term solution along the OL. The Patriots way of drafting OL seems to be tailor-made for getting a solid OL in place and keeping it for a decade.

The problem with projects is that it takes 3+ years to develop them, and during that time, they're not very productive. Then when they are productive in year 4, they're FA's and now command too high of a salary, like Ju'Wuan James. Of course, if they don't work out, we just forget them and get no years of productive play.

Drafting Michael Deiter was perfect, IMHO. He represents that Patriot way fantastically. He is a very good run blocker, and a solid pass protector, but has a reasonable ceiling. So, he'll produce immediately and give us 4 years of good LG play. Then, when his contract nears its end and he becomes a FA after year 4, his ceiling isn't as high as some on the market, and he probably will not command such a high price that we cannot re-sign him. Also, he's a true ironman, having played 54 consecutive games in college at Wisconsin. Every year our OL's biggest problem is durability. It's not talent, it's keeping the talent on the field that is the biggest challenge. Deiter looks like the perfect choice for this Patriots OL philosophy. I'm hoping for 2 or 3 more just like him in the 2020 draft, so we can finally fix the OL long term.
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I'm looking forward to calling this the Dolphins way.
 
Danny said:
Wasn't sure where to post this but some people here thought we should have kept him but I guess the FO knew something we didn't know.

Travis Swanson C, Unsigned Free Agent

Travis Swanson announced his retirement.
"I decided to retire from the game of football," Swanson announced in an Instagram post. His full statement can be viewed in the link below. Overshadowed by concussion issues the past two seasons, the former third-round pick finishes his career after five years played between the Lions and Dolphins.

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Wow. Wish him the best. I think he played better than Kilgore for us personally
 
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