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Film Room: Josh Rosen’s 1st Pro Start

If Miami wants Rosen to be successful in Miami, it's very simple:

1. Fix the defense, this has been the teams biggest problem since Gase was hired.
2. Run the ball frequently and successfully (AT LEAST 3.5 yards a clip).
3. Get the ball out of Rosen's hands as fast as possible until the Oline gets fixed, which will obviously take time.

Most of these have nothing to do with Rosen, but this is what's needed for him (and most NFL QB's) to look better than they actually are because in the NFL we all know the QB gets ALL the blame and ALL the credit for team success/failure.


I’ve been saying the same thing. Stout D, bruising run game, win a lot of games...

Same recipe we used in the 70s. Worked then, it’ll work now.

For those of you who think that this is an antiquated system, that the “game has changed”, watch some videos of Bob Griese. He was no Marino, but the man could throw with some nice touch.

We ran a lot. We threw plenty. We stopped other teams offense. And we won.

Same recipe would work today. This whole “game has changed” thing is BS. It has changed, but out of desire for fireworks, high scoring games...asses in seats, marketing.

Not out of necessity.
 
I’ve been saying the same thing. Stout D, bruising run game, win a lot of games...

Same recipe we used in the 70s. Worked then, it’ll work now.

For those of you who think that this is an antiquated system, that the “game has changed”, watch some videos of Bob Griese. He was no Marino, but the man could throw with some nice touch.

We ran a lot. We threw plenty. We stopped other teams offense. And we won.

Same recipe would work today. This whole “game has changed” thing is BS. It has changed, but out of desire for fireworks, high scoring games...asses in seats, marketing.

Not out of necessity.
You might want to check Bobbys stats.

His completion %?
His attemps per yr?
Yds per att?

He wasn't that good.

Would not be in the HOF, if he played today.

Sorry, not meant as an insult, but your opinion is biased.
 
I’ve been saying the same thing. Stout D, bruising run game, win a lot of games...

Same recipe we used in the 70s. Worked then, it’ll work now.

For those of you who think that this is an antiquated system, that the “game has changed”, watch some videos of Bob Griese. He was no Marino, but the man could throw with some nice touch.

We ran a lot. We threw plenty. We stopped other teams offense. And we won.

Same recipe would work today. This whole “game has changed” thing is BS. It has changed, but out of desire for fireworks, high scoring games...asses in seats, marketing.

Not out of necessity.

It goes through cycles. It's a running league for 10+ years, then it's a passing league for 10+ years...etc etc. But I agree that $$ was probably more of a motivation for some rule changes rather than player safety.


Edit: Oops that top part was something I decided not to post and it stuck itself in this reply box
 
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Key to rosen is having oc. Who understands what he does best and what he does bad. Design offense that work for him like what Andy Reid does to his QB. I do not agree w N.E system 100% because it systems design for brady..
 
You might want to check Bobbys stats.

His completion %?
His attemps per yr?
Yds per att?

He wasn't that good.

Would not be in the HOF, if he played today.

Sorry, not meant as an insult, but your opinion is biased.

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Bob Griese's NFL ranking as far as passer rating:

1970: 10th
1971: 2nd
1972: Injured
1973: 6th
1974: 8th
1975: 6th
1976: 9th
1977: 1st
1978: 4th
1979: 15th

That's a pretty damn good run. That entire era was filled with QB hampered by much more aggressive defensive play.
 
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Bob Griese's NFL ranking as far as passer rating:

1970: 10th
1971: 2nd
1972: Injured
1973: 6th
1974: 8th
1975: 6th
1976: 9th
1977: 1st
1978: 4th
1979: 15th

That's a pretty damn good run. That entire era was filled with QB hampered by much more aggressive defensive play.
we need bob now it great talking about past. it does us no good now.
 
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Bob Griese's NFL ranking as far as passer rating:

1970: 10th
1971: 2nd
1972: Injured
1973: 6th
1974: 8th
1975: 6th
1976: 9th
1977: 1st
1978: 4th
1979: 15th

That's a pretty damn good run. That entire era was filled with QB hampered by much more aggressive defensive play.
I dont disagree, but that just speaks to how much different the game was in that era.

@multistage was comparing two eras that are not comparable, IMO.

I didn't say he was not deserving of the accolades bestowed upon him. Its just that I don't beleive he would be "elite" today.
 
I dont disagree, but that just speaks to how much different the game was in that era.

@multistage was comparing two eras that are not comparable, IMO.

I didn't say he was not deserving of the accolades bestowed upon him. Its just that I don't beleive he would be "elite" today.
I think he would be above avg. rules protect qb these day. that why they are lasting in there 40s. I saw him play when I was little kid, dolphins was good team back than.
 
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Bob Griese's NFL ranking as far as passer rating:

1970: 10th
1971: 2nd
1972: Injured
1973: 6th
1974: 8th
1975: 6th
1976: 9th
1977: 1st
1978: 4th
1979: 15th

That's a pretty damn good run. That entire era was filled with QB hampered by much more aggressive defensive play.
Let me put it a different way.

Marino
Montana
Warner
Favre
Brady
Manning
Rodgers

Are some of the QBs to win MVP, and are in or destined to be in the HOF.

Do you take Griese over any of those guys?
 
I dont disagree, but that just speaks to how much different the game was in that era.

@multistage was comparing two eras that are not comparable, IMO.

I didn't say he was not deserving of the accolades bestowed upon him. Its just that I don't beleive he would be "elite" today.

lol...more likely,our elite QB's of today COULD NOT play in that era...QB's of the seventies routinely took hits,that players would be ejected for today.
I'd love to see Brady handle that type of pressure...Him getting the crap knocked out of him,while his receivers are getting mugged all down the field.
A slant across the middle, took a BRAVE receiver.
 
lol...more likely,our elite QB's of today COULD NOT play in that era...QB's of the seventies routinely took hits,that players would be ejected for today.
I'd love to see Brady handle that type of pressure...Him getting the crap knocked out of him,while his receivers are getting mugged all down the field.
A slant across the middle, took a BRAVE receiver.
brady would nt last to 40 back than. be retire by now. he would have less SB. plus N.E would nt be going to SB every yr. also they wouldn't be winning div every yr.
 
lol...more likely,our elite QB's of today COULD NOT play in that era...QB's of the seventies routinely took hits,that players would be ejected for today.
I'd love to see Brady handle that type of pressure...Him getting the crap knocked out of him,while his receivers are getting mugged all down the field.
A slant across the middle, took a BRAVE receiver.
No doubt.

Again, it's a different game. That is my whole point. Rule changes have had an impact on the way the game is approached. The skillset required of a QB today is different than 45 yrs ago.
 
Marino would have ruled in any era...
Without question.

It's a crying shame we couldn't field even a mediocre defense for a decade +.

I can't put it all on Shula, but defensive talent evaluation was not his strong suit. Then, when FA came along, and there was a lot of player movement, he was a dinasaur that didn't adjust.
 
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