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If Miami Is Bad Enough To Get The First Overall Pick In The 2020 Draft...

Should Flores be kept if Miami has the worst record in the NFL?

  • Yes

    Votes: 136 90.1%
  • No

    Votes: 15 9.9%

  • Total voters
    151
Why take a QB in 2020 when there is a better QB coming out in 2021and it's not even close, even I can see that and I'm no talent evaluator.

The idea of tanking just doesn't sit well with me, yeah I'll like the winning in 3 years but I will never view the Dolphins the same way.

Something new for us, guess they are really tired of losing but It reeks of something dirty, is that why we brought in these New England coaches...

Someone says this every year. The following draft is always better for some reason.
 
You have been dishonestly duped. That tweet was not mine. And I stated unequivocally that I disagree with it. Alfredo has said several times that he was being facetious, anyway.

I don't appreciate the dishonesty involved in trying to portray that tweet as being mine or symbolic of what I think. I'll leave it at that.
Knowing a little of your posting history, it didnt seem like something you would be on board with.

NBD, anyway, it's an online forum, not that important in the grand scheme of things.

However, I can appreciate how it might "irk" you when someone attributes something to you that isn't true.
 
I don't think that you're quite understanding that differentiating between whether an investment has a 5% chance of success versus a 33% chance of success IS THE FUNDAMENTAL FOUNDATION for any case about whether to execute the trade or not.

I get the principle. I just disagree with the measurement.
 
Well in the case of the 2020 class its fact. I'm stating the obvious but some don't grasp the obvious around here.
A weird take, considering Tua just put up the most efficient season in NCAA history.
 
It simply isn’t fact.

Unless, of course, you’re from the future.

Ok. Just about everybody that follows college football would agree the 2020 QB class is better than the 2019 QB class but you know something everyone doesn't.
 
Ok. Just about everybody that follows college football would agree the 2020 QB class is better than the 2019 QB class but you know something everyone doesn't.

Of course I don’t. It’s just that people state things as factual that haven’t even happened yet. Like how it was a fact that Jake Locker was a sure thing about a year before he got drafted. Or how Christian Hackenberg was the perfect prospect as a freshman at Penn State.

Maybe I’m just a stickler for verbiage. But stating these things as factual just ain’t so.
 
I dont think it was bad trade. We need find top qb. To win in afc. At leased someone in front office notices this. This been going on too long in miami..trying win without top qb.. how this wk out I dont know put we need try find next qb soon as possible. It not all on qb but good one will help out team faster.
 
A weird take, considering Tua just put up the most efficient season in NCAA history.

and if our Phins played in the NCAA that information would be hugely relevant rather than merely one of many indicators. After all, it's not like we haven't seen a stud light it up on college and not make the cut in the pros before or the inverse.
 
and if our Phins played in the NCAA that information would be hugely relevant rather than merely one of many indicators. After all, it's not like we haven't seen a stud light it up on college and not make the cut in the pros before or the inverse.
Right, but generally when someone lights it up in college and fails in the pros it's because the level of competition they played against just made them look good. Alabama plays in a bunch of tough, big time games which is why Tua is the best QB prospect to come out since Luck.

Obviously he could suck this year and it goes away, but right now it is what it is.
 
Right, but generally when someone lights it up in college and fails in the pros it's because the level of competition they played against just made them look good. Alabama plays in a bunch of tough, big time games which is why Tua is the best QB prospect to come out since Luck.

Obviously he could suck this year and it goes away, but right now it is what it is.

That's it in a nutshell -- "this year, it is what it is" -- is a hot take in the moment that you clearly don't have a deep belief because otherwise, you wouldn't say "he could suck....". And that's what makes all of these conversations so crazy. No one knows anything. We all have a bunch of data points that we value differently. All we really know is top flight college talent removes *some* of the risk of drafting that person. Hence, why I said "is merely one of many indicators".

As for Tua, he sure looks good most of the time. But we've seen a ton of early round 1 QBs who looked great in school and then when they got to the bigs, they couldn't read D's or react fast enough and make everyone involved look stupid.
 
pretty dumb poll. Ross already stated he doesn't care about short term results. There's a reason we signed him to 4 years instead of the standard 3 year contract.
 
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