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Training Camp Updates - Day Four

A lot of people hoping or wishing or predicting a 3 or 4 win season but having panic attacks over every tweet in an early camp.
The medical term for this condition is "sport schizophrenia". It mainly afflicts fans of franchises that have been perpetually mediocre, or below average.

The only known cure for this horrible condition is a multicourse treatment of playoff appearances.
 
I just want to know where are the kicking updates at, 4 practices and not one mention of our kickers
 
A lot of people hoping or wishing or predicting a 3 or 4 win season but having panic attacks over every tweet in an early camp.

This is not unexpected. In regular season, players and coaches are praised/bashed because of one series. X allows a long catch and 'maybe he's not as good as we thought.' The D allows a 1st on 3rd and 12 and 'these guys are no better than Gase.'

In this case, we saw Rosen have a good day and there were a lot of comments he was finally showing who he is. The next day he and RF have a bad day and the sky's falling. Day 4 was NOT good by reports, but, no one knows what the coaches were emphasizing. No one knows if the goal was, for example, put Davis on an island and see what happens. Many of the starters are undecided and WILL change by PS game one. And we all know those who tweet are likely not watching the same things the staff is. I'll worry more when PS starts.
 
Really? Why are you being so "obtuse"? I'll explain it to you. Pivot synonyms: turn, spin, revolve, rotate. Should I explain the term synonym for you too? Arizona didn't like the direction they were headed with Rosen so they changed directions or pivoted away from him and went in a different direction. Is that clear enough for you?
That is exactly what @datruth55 meant: how can you say that when the Cards have not played a single game yet? How can you say "they changed direction"?
For what it's worth if anything they are gambling big time. They hired a coach who was fired at a mediocre college for having a 35-40 record with 2 winning seasons in a total of 6 seasons, never was better than 5th in conference play. That coach picked a QB who had one full season in college under his belt, nobody has ever heard of last year at this time and has no incentive to work hard in the NFL having that cushy baseball contract in his back pocket. Yeah, the Cardinals pivoted alright. :lol:

It is time for you to simply admit that you dislike Rosen no matter what. Your spin is not working.
 
I understand all of that and you make some good points, but here is the ultimate underlying question. What in this front office's and ownership's history suggest that they have any clue of when it would be the right time to move on from Rosen?

The fact they burned almost the entire house down, moved on from RT after years of loyalty, and brought in a significant fraction of their new coaching staff from the winningest franchise in the history of football?

Will that winning tradition hold? Who knows. But you are more likely to build in the right direction by copying the good parts of a known winner than by starting from scratch, stoping your feet and saying "I know more than anyone else" which happens all too often in this ego driven league.

I get it, we've had more than a decade of floundering around waiting for the return of greatness the 70's. It's disappointing. But even with the big tuna himself, widely viewed as one of the better coaches of all time, we couldn't break through the mediocrity with his "I'm a proven winner and let me show everyone how it's done" attitude. That alone should show you how hard it is to pull everyone and everything together at the same time really is.
 
changing starting QBs is a pivot all by itself, imo
Well the point was made that Arizona turned the franchise around by getting rid of Rosen. And the Dolphins did not. If a change at QB means a franchise turned it around (without actually any games played) than that should be applicable to the Dolphins just as well.

I even go a step further:
The Dolphins should have the "pivot leg" up on Arizona (without any games played) because their new HC comes from a winning culture while Kingsbury made the "mighty" Texas Tech Raiders worse than they already were. The Dolphins picked up Rosen for a very late second round pick who had a decent college carrier and was put in an awful position in his rookie NFL year while the Cards not only tossed their #10 pick out but also spend a #1 pick on a QB who is - at this point - a one-year wonder in college with a fat contract for baseball in his back pocket.
 
Well the point was made that Arizona turned the franchise around by getting rid of Rosen. And the Dolphins did not. If a change at QB means a franchise turned it around (without actually any games played) than that should be applicable to the Dolphins just as well.

I even go a step further:
The Dolphins should have the "pivot leg" up on Arizona (without any games played) because their new HC comes from a winning culture while Kingsbury made the "mighty" Texas Tech Raiders worse than they already were. The Dolphins picked up Rosen for a very late second round pick who had a decent college carrier and was put in an awful position in his rookie NFL year while the Cards not only tossed their #10 pick out but also spend a #1 pick on a QB who is - at this point - a one-year wonder in college with a fat contract for baseball in his back pocket.


Maybe you should look up the definition of "pivot". It means to change directions. Not to necessarily succeed. I think changing QB after a year is definitely a change in directions. Especially after you spent a first rounder on him haha
 
Well the point was made that Arizona turned the franchise around by getting rid of Rosen. And the Dolphins did not. If a change at QB means a franchise turned it around (without actually any games played) than that should be applicable to the Dolphins just as well.

I even go a step further:
The Dolphins should have the "pivot leg" up on Arizona (without any games played) because their new HC comes from a winning culture while Kingsbury made the "mighty" Texas Tech Raiders worse than they already were. The Dolphins picked up Rosen for a very late second round pick who had a decent college carrier and was put in an awful position in his rookie NFL year while the Cards not only tossed their #10 pick out but also spend a #1 pick on a QB who is - at this point - a one-year wonder in college with a fat contract for baseball in his back pocket.
ah- gotcha. I was focusing on the word "pivot" which is just a change in direction. The Cards certainly did that with their QB(as did the Dolphins). Whether it is the right direction that turns the franchise around remains to be seen
 
Maybe you should look up the definition of "pivot". It means to change directions. Not to necessarily succeed. I think changing QB after a year is definitely a change in directions. Especially after you spent a first rounder on him haha
Do you even read the posts you are responding to?
Look at your response and look @rent this space response.
 
:bobdole:

Doubling down...reminds me of someone.

All he said was he hopes we can pivot off of Rosen as fast as Arizona pivoted off of him. We pivoted off Tannehill. Both teams changed direction. We don't know if either team is headed in the right direction. I would rather have Murray than Rosen. I do know that.

You are the one who told him to look up the word pivot when indeed he used it correctly, smartass.
 
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