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Slimm's 2020 Quarterbacks (underclassman)

ckparrothead said:
Is that the Greg McElroy thing?
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If Greg said it he probably talked to one of UGA's coaches, most likely a coach he knows very well and was at Alabama when Greg was the QB. Maybe even Kirby himself I don't know. I actually heard it through a chain of high school coaches - originating from the coach of one of players UGA is targeting in Alabama. A player who's already committed to Alabama.

Put it this way, Kirby and his staff like to talk a lot. Especially when it comes to recruiting.
 
PFF's QB Ranking is odd.

I don't know what the standards are.

If they're ranking this based on college factors then absolutely, D'Eriq King and Mason Fine are two of the finest out there, as far as COLLEGE quarterbacks go, playing the college game against college defenses and helping their offenses achieve extraordinary success.

But then you have Justin Herbert above them? How does that foot?

On the other hand, if this is about a more pure ranking of which players could continue to do well as you up the level of competition, which players will go on to make big names for themselves in the pro landscapes, suddenly it starts to make sense if you put Trevor Lawrence, Tua Tagovailoa, and Justin Herbert in the top three.

But then you have D'Eriq King, Mason Fine, Jalen Hurts, and Joe Burrow ahead of guys like Jordan Love (#20) and Desmond Ridder (#23)?

Just doesn't make sense. Those aren't pro quarterbacks.
 
The quality I like in Jarrett Guarantano is that the guy just keeps rifling. He gets up and just rifles another one, and the overwhelming majority of these balls are accurate whether they are caught or not. He's very trustworthy in terms of throw execution. You can call 4th down plays for him knowing the ball is going to get where it's supposed to go.

He's incredibly efficient on 3rd down. That's coolness under pressure. It's reliability of his arm. It's the ability to read the field.

There are silly mistakes in there, which seems like a typical young thing. Still growing physically and isn't going to impress anyone with his strength or speed yet.

But he's got an arm on him, he's really accurate, very reliable, good feet in the pocket with very natural movement, and he's implacable.

He starts playing with a little more moxie, urgency, confidence in his athleticism with the bodies around him, then he's a guy to watch.
 
ckparrothead said:
The quality I like in Jarrett Guarantano is that the guy just keeps rifling. He gets up and just rifles another one, and the overwhelming majority of these balls are accurate whether they are caught or not. He's very trustworthy in terms of throw execution. You can call 4th down plays for him knowing the ball is going to get where it's supposed to go.

He's incredibly efficient on 3rd down. That's coolness under pressure. It's reliability of his arm. It's the ability to read the field.

There are silly mistakes in there, which seems like a typical young thing. Still growing physically and isn't going to impress anyone with his strength or speed yet.

But he's got an arm on him, he's really accurate, very reliable, good feet in the pocket with very natural movement, and he's implacable.

He starts playing with a little more moxie, urgency, confidence in his athleticism with the bodies around him, then he's a guy to watch.
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You nailed that kid...Watched Bama beat him to death..he kept getting up and firing away...balls of steel.
he is one to keep a eye on.
 
Namor said:
You nailed that kid...Watched Bama beat him to death..he kept getting up and firing away...balls of steel.
he is one to keep a eye on.
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Yeah he has to learn how to identify those blitzes though. He did a poor job of it despite us giving it away with every indication pre snap. He didn't even look to the side the blitz was coming from and then he'd get hammered and fumble. I wonder a little if he puts in enough work in the film room.
 
...as they say in the Boston area -- you guys are the BALLS!
Really appreciate your insights and love the backdrop stories etc.

gotta ask -- ya think the U ever returns to national relevance?

It seems the huge SEC football factories are just too dominant...

Anyway, thanks!
 
TedSlimmJr said:
If Greg said it he probably talked to one of UGA's coaches, most likely a coach he knows very well and was at Alabama when Greg was the QB. Maybe even Kirby himself I don't know. I actually heard it through a chain of high school coaches - originating from the coach of one of players UGA is targeting in Alabama. A player who's already committed to Alabama.

Put it this way, Kirby and his staff like to talk a lot. Especially when it comes to recruiting.
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I so hope you are right Mathis will need another year after the surgery and Carson will be a freshman
 
Fromm gives me vibes of a game manager type. Maybe an elite game manager but is that what you want in a QB?
 
I think any college quarterback that doesn't project to be able to scramble around and make big plays that way is a "game manager type".
 
I think you can run pretty good and efficient offenses in the NFL with those game manager types. That's why they're always the one's that stick around for so long in the NFL as spot starters, backups....even starters in some cases. The scrambling type don't tend to stick as long for a few reasons.

I think Fromm can certainly play in the NFL. I think he projects as a starter in the NFL, and a pretty good starting quarterback in the NFL in the right place. Potentially even a top 10 starting QB in the NFL. He just doesn't have the playmaking ability of a kid like Tua or Love. Just not as dynamic as Tua. The ceiling just isn't as high.

But there will always be a place for intelligent winners and leaders with enough arm and accuracy to play in the NFL.
 
I'm just saying that the "game manager" typology isn't really all that useful anymore.

If the "game manager" thing is code for not having that sort of Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger (when he was young), Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield ability to scramble around and make a bunch of plays outside of structure...then that's what we should be saying.

I will always lean toward those guys, but not to the exclusion of quarterbacks who look like they stand a chance of being able to hurt defenses from the pocket.

There's no reason to pretend they come in only one size/shape anymore.
 
ckparrothead said:
I'm just saying that the "game manager" typology isn't really all that useful anymore.

If the "game manager" thing is code for not having that sort of Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger (when he was young), Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield ability to scramble around and make a bunch of plays outside of structure...then that's what we should be saying.

I will always lean toward those guys, but not to the exclusion of quarterbacks who look like they stand a chance of being able to hurt defenses from the pocket.

There's no reason to pretend they come in only one size/shape anymore.
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That's well said. That's probably what I was trying to say when I said a long time ago that Tua looked to be from an entirely different planet than Fromm. The planet Fromm is from produces plenty of NFL starters. But the planet Tua is from has produced some of the best we've ever seen.
 
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