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Sorry, but two years ago 1-15 and the last few years before was a fluke. We did not have a QB, our RB was injured, and are coaching staff is a joke ever sense don went away. Jason Taylor two years ago had 55 tackles overall, 11 sacks, and 1 int. for a td, so yeah age has a factor, but the next year he was away from football doing Dancing with the Stars, was not happy with Redskins, and went through a injury there. See what I hate about two years ago is I knew we had talent on our team, but did everything wrong an organization can do. Dolphins are back to where they belong a challenge to the league. The problems last year... looks like this off season we have a lot to fix them. I fill our WR position is better then what we think, with Ted Ginn Jr., I see promising results, Greg will come back and look as good or better, Bess is a good back up and good for special teams, and Patrick Turner is going to be amazing. Ronnie is on his 2nd year from his injury and isn’t that when players really come back? Ge, look like last year he was not even injured so you know he will be rocking. A lot people have not said a lot about Ricky, but I see a lot more out of him too. I think so because well yeah he is maybe old, but Ricky is great and having last year to get use to being a 2nd and football on the NFL level this year should bring better results. Also getting people like Jake Grove for our o line I think our QB will get some extra time and give our RB and/or QB some running room. Our pass rush look ok last year, but this year might be one of the best. Last, but not the least Sean Smith and Vontae Davis look like they will be super stars in their positions.
 
I am still amazed looking at the 08 predictions after 1-15 how faithful the Dolphin fans were. We should have done so much better in 07, I agree 1-15 was the fluke. Maintaining greatness is the real challenge.
 
mikethewreck said:
I am still amazed looking at the 08 predictions after 1-15 how faithful the Dolphin fans were. We should have done so much better in 07, I agree 1-15 was the fluke. Maintaining greatness is the real challenge.
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With the group people we have on our team maintaining might not be as hard as it seems. Truly the only real big problem i see is injury. I think what our team will be best at is avoiding mental errors. Last year they did good, but could of done better. As for the patriots seriously every team needs to watch what happen two years ago to tom in the super bowl. He is not best and the patriots can be stop like any team.
 
I disagree. We were 1-15 and we were lucky to get that one win.

I have heard many pro players say the pro game is 90% between the ears. It's all mental. It's how well you know what you are doing, it is practicing in a way that makes you understand what to do in critical situations. It's playing together, believing in your leaders/coaches that THEY know what to do.

What I am saying is the game of football is controled a lot more by coaching/leadership than most fans want to believe. Last year proved that. We were able to win the close games and played as a team. The difference IMO between the last two years is last year we were a 11-5 "TEAM", where as the year before we were a 1-15 "group of players".
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
I disagree. We were 1-15 and we were lucky to get that one win.

I have heard many pro players say the pro game is 90% between the ears. It's all mental. It's how well you know what you are doing, it is practicing in a way that makes you understand what to do in critical situations. It's playing together, believing in your leaders/coaches that THEY know what to do.

What I am saying is the game of football is controled a lot more by coaching/leadership than most fans want to believe. Last year proved that. We were able to win the close games and played as a team. The difference IMO between the last two years is last year we were a 11-5 "TEAM", where as the year before we were a 1-15 "group of players".
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One of my point was our coaching staff being awful. if we had tony and bill had the whole 07 season do u think we will have the same record. Heck no. And yes we did play as a group of players instead of a team. We did have talent, excluding beck, that was under bad management. The whole reason i bring up this is i think 07 was more of a fluke then 08 season. And from you i get that you think neither 07 or 08 was a fluke instead what we bong to the table is what we are and i agree with that.
 
We were awful in 07. I don't think it was a fluke, but we could have easily been 4-12 or 5-11 with better preparation from the coaching staff, and without injuries to Ronnie Brown, Trent Green, and our entire secondary. Those are the kinds of things that happen in the NFL, and our coach/GM did not prepare our team for that.
 
The fluke was not 1-15, but the idiots we had for HCs after Shula retired. CementHair made some good personnel moves, but I will never forgive him for how he handled Marino. His ego was was his downfall. Dumbstadt, Satan, and Scamster were totally inept. After the parade of those idiots the results are to be expected. Dumbstadt won inspite of himself thanks to the talent left on the team. As his tenure progressed the his ineptness really shone through as he depleted the talent pool. If it were not for JT, Zach, and Ricky his time here would have been a total disaster. Satan's arrogance and dishonesty got him out of town before he could incur the wrath of the fans. The Scamster needs no words for his incompetence. That Jack@#$ did not get out of town fast enough. You can rest all the blame for 1-15 on the back of the Scamster.
 
DKphin said:
The fluke was not 1-15, but the idiots we had for HCs after Shula retired. CementHair made some good personnel moves, but I will never forgive him for how he handled Marino. His ego was was his downfall. Dumbstadt, Satan, and Scamster were totally inept. After the parade of those idiots the results are to be expected. Dumbstadt won inspite of himself thanks to the talent left on the team. As his tenure progressed the his ineptness really shone through as he depleted the talent pool. If it were not for JT, Zach, and Ricky his time here would have been a total disaster. Satan's arrogance and dishonesty got him out of town before he could incur the wrath of the fans. The Scamster needs no words for his incompetence. That Jack@#$ did not get out of town fast enough. You can rest all the blame for 1-15 on the back of the Scamster.
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Couldn't have said much better myself. We should never have had a back up Qb playing the role of starting Qb. And yes for all of you who don't realise who I am talking about. Jay Fiedler. And Jimmy did make some good moves as far as defense was concerned . But offensively he was lost. Handcuffing his best player in Marino. The many failures of drafted RB's. His offensive linesthat were to protect marino and give him the run game. Terrible.

As for Saban. Yeah he may have realized he was in over his head. In which I am glad he got out sooner rather than later. Cam Cameron. Also I think was clueless as a head coach.
 
Things happen but I don't think that the HC's were idiots. If they were idiots based on their records then consider Tom Landry and Chuck Noll the same. Things happen. BP was not that much better, he won 3 games his 1st yr.
BB in NE...is he an idiot? He got fired once.
Things happen.
 
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Couldn't have said much better myself. We should never have had a back up Qb playing the role of starting Qb. And yes for all of you who don't realise who I am talking about. Jay Fiedler. And Jimmy did make some good moves as far as defense was concerned . But offensively he was lost. Handcuffing his best player in Marino. The many failures of drafted RB's. His offensive linesthat were to protect marino and give him the run game. Terrible.

As for Saban. Yeah he may have realized he was in over his head. In which I am glad he got out sooner rather than later. Cam Cameron. Also I think was clueless as a head coach.
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I was furious when JJ took away Marino's option to audible. At that point we were all hoping to run the football of course and Jimmy thought Jabbar was the answer. JJ also referred to Dan as his candy store but definitely did his best to control him. The season opener looked good against NE and JJ thought his plan was gold.

There were two big egos there and Jimmy wanted all the power.

John Avery. :lol::crazy:
 
i wrote this because i am sick of people saying 08 was a fluke when it was not and neither was 07. but if we are comparing the two with i see a lot of people from other site do. then i think 07 was more of a fluke then 08. i am just saying if people think 08 was a fluke this year they are going to be surprise again. What your record is, that's what you are there is no fluke or mistake about it.
 
I don't know about a "fluke", but that 1-15 wasn't nearly as bad as the record indicated. Obviously they weren't playoff caliber, but they lost what 6 games by 3 points or less? This with many of their key players injured. They should have won at least 5-6 games. Still not impressive, but not downright pathetic.
 
you dont go 1-15 by fluke. did the Lions go 0-16 last year by fluke as well? thanks for the chuckle.
 
ZachThomas76 said:
you dont go 1-15 by fluke. did the Lions go 0-16 last year by fluke as well? thanks for the chuckle.
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I think the "not a fluke" issue boils down to bad coaching (and GM'ing). Cam never had his team playing as a team the way Sparano has from the get go. Showed none of the resilience or innovation that enabled the '08 Dolphins to break out from an 0-2 start to go 11-3 and win the division. Awful draft, '08 Dolphins had several rooks contribute while '07...not so much. When Cam got behind the wins curve he looked like he was panicking and not leading. Flinging Beck out there like meat to hungry wolves. There was talent. The injuries hurt but do you think last year if Chad P had gone down (or not come to town in the first place, thank you NYJ) Chad H wouldn't have stepped in and won some games for us? Yes the talent pool overall was weak and got dump flushed by the Trifecta, but given competent leadership we would have had a few more wins in '07.
 
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