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1st and 2nd Round Draft Prognostications For Those With The Stones To Do It!

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Instead of the cheerleading or complaining after the fact, put your nards on the line before the fact and delineate what you want the team to do.

That way when it is all over, you don't get to complain for the sake of complaining, if they do what you wanted them to do ahead of time. By the same token, if they don't do what you wanted them to do, you don't get to say it was a great draft after the fact.

Yup, put the receipts out there ahead of time, for everyone to see, and your comments after the draft can be evaluated against what you said before the draft.

I will go first. Granted, I am probably not the best person to do this, because I am not much of a draftnick, so I will be a bit more general in my description.

For those that fall into the draftnick camp, please feel free to add which specific players you want in those early rounds. You can offer a few options, because it is hard to know who is going to be there when they pick.

Also if you want to go out to the third round, that is fine too. After that, it starts to matter a lot less, and it is too hard to even think about and there are so many permutations. But if you want to talk about the later rounds, that is certainly fine.

I believe the organization has blown it, and what is here now is not good enough to get the job done. I believe we are and should be in some sort of rebuild situation.

What I want:

-I would like the rebuild to begin from the inside out. I want the team to be tougher, and have a chance to win in the cold and on the road and to compete with tougher teams and win playoff games. The OL is still an obvious need at this point anyway, whether you believe it is a rebuild or not. The first two picks should be used on the trenches, especially interior O-line and D-line. I want there to be strength in the trenches, that way there is something here to anchor the team if we need to start over in 2026, and it also helps and is a need now, so to me this seems the obvious and lowest risk thing to do.

-I can live with them trading back in the first round, if they view who they could take at #13 is non-differentiated from who they can pick up when they trade back. We will see who they draft if they trade back.

-I want guys that are ready to play. No combine warriors with theoretical upside that need time to develop. With the 1st two picks I want guys ready to contribute now.

What I don't want:

-No WR or CB or TE or Safety with the first or second pick

-No Shedeur Sanders

-No trading up in the first or second round. I do not trust Grier's acumen to trade up and get it right. He seems to outsmart himself all the time doing this. And I do not trust his command of the board either. He sometimes trades up to get someone that he probably didn't need to trade up to get, or could have found the equivalent player later. Or like with Waddle, totally outsmarts himself and skips over all-pro players in the process that were sitting there to be had with the original pick, and gives up a lot of draft capital to do it as well.

-No reaches for the 1st or 2nd round pick. Even if it is interior OL or DL like I want, I want it to be a guy that the pundits believe should be drafted in the proximity of where the Dolphins are picking. Don't want it to be some guy where they think they are outsmarting the entire rest of the league by reaching for that player. I do not trust them to be able to outsmart everyone else or have a keen enough understanding of the board to know if they have to reach or not
 
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it’s not what we want. It’s what Ross and his men want and that’s how it is supposed to be. As far as putting my nards On the line, well, we never really do, we don’t sign the checks!! But for what is worth, we haven’t won for so long that thinking that this next draft is going to change everything (or much at all) is pretty naive.

In the NFL, you either have the “eventual” SB winning Quarterback, or you don’t!

If your team does have that QB, you can work towards winging the SB. if your team doesn’t, then you keep spinning wheels in the mud.

We don’t! There, I put my nard On the line. 😁
 
it’s not what we want. It’s what Ross and his men want and that’s how it is supposed to be. As far as putting my nards On the line, well, we never really do, we don’t sign the checks!! But for what is worth, we haven’t won for so long that thinking that this next draft is going to change everything (or much at all) is pretty naive.

In the NFL, you either have the “eventual” SB winning Quarterback, or you don’t!

If your team does have that QB, you can work towards winging the SB. if your team doesn’t, then you keep spinning wheels in the mud.

We don’t! There, I put my nard On the line. 😁
no you didn't, you weasled out of the question, but very creative :)
 
What I want:

Productive linemen. Best lineman available. One from the O side and one from the D side, and I don’t really care which goes in which round.

13 — Kenneth Grant / Banks / Grey Zabel
48 — Donovan Jackson (won’t be there) / Jonah Savaiinaea / Tyliek Williams

What I don’t want:

Corners (especially the hurt ones), Safeties, TEs, WRs, RBs, and definitely not these QBs

Nobody coming off of injuries. No workout warrior track types. Nobody afraid to take place in drills this offseason.
 
I want to trade down. If Grier is picking the groceries, I want a ton of picks. 2 safeties, 2 Offensive lineman (tackle and guard) and perhaps a center, 2 D-line mountain of men, 1 early CB and 1 late CB, 1 thumping RB for short yardage, 1 LB for depth and specials, 1 Wide receiver to replace Hill.

I want NO PROJECTS, NO INJURY HISTORY. Immediate upside no player who is going to take years to develop.

Following the draft, undrafted players who can develop this season on the practice squad. I want more CB's, TE's, RB, and project QB.
 
What I want:

Productive linemen. Best lineman available. One from the O side and one from the D side, and I don’t really care which goes in which round.

13 — Kenneth Grant / Banks / Grey Zabel
48 — Donovan Jackson (won’t be there) / Jonah Savaiinaea / Tyliek Williams

What I don’t want:

Corners (especially the hurt ones), Safeties, TEs, WRs, RBs, and definitely not these QBs

Nobody coming off of injuries. No workout warrior track types. Nobody afraid to take place in drills this offseason.
love this answer!
 
This is a hard exercise cause it isn’t so much what I want as what I believe the dolphins under grier will do.

13. Kelvin banks
48. Xavier watts
want to know what you want! plus it works in your favor, i suspect little chance grier does what you want, so you give yourself license to bitch!!!
 
Instead of the cheerleading or complaining after the fact, put your nards on the line before the fact and delineate what you want the team to do.

That way when it is all over, you don't get to complain for the sake of complaining, if they do what you wanted them to do ahead of time. By the same token, if they don't do what you wanted them to do, you don't get to say it was a great draft after the fact.

Yup, put the receipts out there ahead of time, for everyone to see, and your comments after the draft can be evaluated against what you said before the draft.

I will go first. Granted, I am probably not the best person to do this, because I am not much of a draftnick, so I will be a bit more general in my description.

For those that fall into the draftnick camp, please feel free to add which specific players you want in those early rounds. You can offer a few options, because it is hard to know who is going to be there when they pick.

Also if you want to go out to the third round, that is fine too. After that, it starts to matter a lot less, and it is too hard to even think about and there are so many permutations. But if you want to talk about the later rounds, that is certainly fine.

I believe the organization has blown it, and what is here now is not good enough to get the job done. I believe we are and should be in some sort of rebuild situation.

What I want:

-I would like the rebuild to begin from the inside out. I want the team to be tougher, and have a chance to win in the cold and on the road and to compete with tougher teams and win playoff games. The OL is still an obvious need at this point anyway, whether you believe it is a rebuild or not. The first two picks should be used on the trenches, especially interior O-line and D-line. I want there to be strength in the trenches, that way there is something here to anchor the team if we need to start over in 2026, and it also helps and is a need now, so to me this seems the obvious and lowest risk thing to do.

-I can live with them trading back in the first round, if they view who they could take at #13 is non-differentiated from who they can pick up when they trade back. We will see who they draft if they trade back.

-I want guys that are ready to play. No combine warriors with theoretical upside that need time to develop. With the 1st two picks I want guys ready to contribute now.

What I don't want:

-No WR or CB or TE or Safety with the first or second pick

-No Shedeur Sanders

-No trading up in the first or second round. I do not trust Grier's acumen to trade up and get it right. He seems to outsmart himself all the time doing this. And I do not trust his command of the board either. He sometimes trades up to get someone that he probably didn't need to trade up to get, or could have found the equivalent player later. Or like with Waddle, totally outsmarts himself and skips over all-pro players in the process that were sitting there to be had with the original pick, and gives up a lot of draft capital to do it as well.

-No reaches for the 1st or 2nd round pick. Even if it is interior OL or DL like I want, I want it to be a guy that the pundits believe should be drafted in the proximity of where the Dolphins are picking. Don't want it to be some guy where they think they are outsmarting the entire rest of the league by reaching for that player. I do not trust them to be able to outsmart everyone else or have a keen enough understanding of the board to know if they have to reach or not
Even if they picked day-1-starting DL and OL with the first two picks, it won't matter. This organization limited, and IMO, the only way a team can overcome a poor owner and GM is to have a no-bullshit HC that can do it on his own (with his staff, of course)...unless they're loaded down with all-pro talent, and McD would probably still **** that up.

But I agree with what you hope they do, 100%, I just hope they don't get ruined in their rookie year and the next regime can maximize their impact.
 
13. Derrick Harmon DT Oregon

48. Jonah Savaiinaea OG Arizona
Works for me!

1. Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon
2. Josh Conerly Jr., OT, Oregon
2b. Princely Umanmielen, Edge, Ole Miss

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