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ForksPhin

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I would not be overly disappointed if the Dolphins ended up with Marty Schottenheimer as head coach. He does tend to produce results in the regular season. But I have a serious problem with one call in the Pats game...either related to Cameron or Marty...

Chargers score a TD after being up 14-13. They are now leading 20-13. Why didn't the Chargers go for a 2-point conversion??? If they miss it, they are still leading by a TD, which means the Pats will only tie with a TD. There is no way the Pats would go for 2 if they were trailing 20-19 after scoring, not on the road. If the Chargers make it, they lead 22-13 and the Pats need two scores. That decision by Marty was unconscionable. Hand the ball to LT and let him score the 2 pointer. Just a disgraceful decision.
 
ForksPhin said:
I would not be overly disappointed if the Dolphins ended up with Marty Schottenheimer as head coach. He does tend to produce results in the regular season. But I have a serious problem with one call in the Pats game...either related to Cameron or Marty...

Chargers score a TD after being up 14-13. They are now leading 20-13. Why didn't the Chargers go for a 2-point conversion??? If they miss it, they are still leading by a TD, which means the Pats will only tie with a TD. There is no way the Pats would go for 2 if they were trailing 20-19 after scoring, not on the road. If the Chargers make it, they lead 22-13 and the Pats need two scores. That decision by Marty was unconscionable. Hand the ball to LT and let him score the 2 pointer. Just a disgraceful decision.
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That is a good observation made by you.

I also noticed that situation.

Although...I will say that I would only go for 2 in that spot because I have LT..and ONLY because I have LT.
 
umm no nfl coach would ever do that... you force the other team to tie it with a 2 pt, you dont try to go for one if you dont need it...

you kick the extra point and take the 8pt lead...
 
ForksPhin said:
I would not be overly disappointed if the Dolphins ended up with Marty Schottenheimer as head coach. He does tend to produce results in the regular season. But I have a serious problem with one call in the Pats game...either related to Cameron or Marty...

Chargers score a TD after being up 14-13. They are now leading 20-13. Why didn't the Chargers go for a 2-point conversion??? If they miss it, they are still leading by a TD, which means the Pats will only tie with a TD. There is no way the Pats would go for 2 if they were trailing 20-19 after scoring, not on the road. If the Chargers make it, they lead 22-13 and the Pats need two scores. That decision by Marty was unconscionable. Hand the ball to LT and let him score the 2 pointer. Just a disgraceful decision.
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because they didn't NEED the twop pointer at the time. Its very easy to sit in hind sight and say "hey if they had done this." At the time, marty/Cam had no reason to think an 8 point lead wasnt a solid lead.

You wanna blame someone, blame the chargers defense. Blame Mr. Lightsout Merriman who couldnt stop Brady when it mattered most.

The worst part. Cam STILL managed to set the team up with another field goal opportunity to tie the game in the end.
 
Yeah I would have just kicked the extra point. It's harder for the other team to convert a 2 than to kick the PAT to tie.
 
What is the downside to going for two?????? You always go for 2 points in that situation. Anyone who disagrees is completely missing the point. You already have the score where the Pats can only tie. If you go for 2 and you make it, you eliminate the Pats opportunity to tie the game with one score. You cannot kick the extra point in that situation. That was a terrible decision and it probably cost the Chargers the game.

How can you kick an extra point and still give the Pats the opportunity to tie with a TD and a two-pointer???????
 
ForksPhin said:
What is the downside to going for two?????? You always go for 2 points in that situation. Anyone who disagrees is completely missing the point. You already have the score where the Pats can only tie. If you go for 2 and you make it, you eliminate the Pats opportunity to tie the game with one score. You cannot kick the extra point in that situation. That was a terrible decision and it probably cost the Chargers the game.

How can you kick an extra point and still give the Pats the opportunity to tie with a TD and a two-pointer???????
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Cause when you have a top 5 defense in the NFL, thats not a concern.
 
This whole topic is stupid. No coach in the world would go for 2. Obviously, you kick the extra point. Anyone with a brain would.
 
CitizenSnips said:
Cause when you have a top 5 defense in the NFL, thats not a concern.
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Yeah, it is not a concern with Tom Brady on the other sideline. And that is why Marty Schottenheimer is 5-13 in the playoffs.
 
That makes absolutely no sense. In essencense, you are just making it easier for the Pats to make their comeback. Put the other team in position to lose the game, not yourself.
 
Zacher87 said:
This whole topic is stupid. No coach in the world would go for 2. Obviously, you kick the extra point. Anyone with a brain would.
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So tell me exactly what the downside is if you go for 2 points? Are the Pats going to go for the win or kick the extra point if they are down by 7 (which would be the case if the Chargers miss the 2 pointer)? They are going to kick the extra point, which means the Chargers are in the same position...tied. Going for two points is an absolute no-brainer.
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
That makes absolutely no sense. In essencense, you are just making it easier for the Pats to make their comeback. Put the other team in position to lose the game, not yourself.
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If you put the Pats down by 9 points, instead of 8, you are making their comeback infinitely more difficult. It is the differnce between converting a two-pointer to tie, vs. scoring a TD and then needing to get the ball back and get into FG range for a win.
 
ok why not kick an onside kick every kickoff, because if you get it you can score again... why wouldn't even team do this?

why not go for it on 4th down everytime because if you get it you dont give the other team the ball?

obviously this would all be dumb as hell... you dont take an unecessary risk when you can put yourself up by 8 halfway through the 4th quarter... of course if you get it your up 2 scores and thats great, but if you dont, the other team doesnt even have to try for the 2 pt score and thus makes it easier to tie the game at the end of the 4th quarter...

if you dont want cam cameron or marty as a coach because of that decision you want no coach in this league cause none of them would have gone for 2 there
 
What's even more upsetting is that the Chargers didn't go for five extra touchdowns. If they would have scored five extra touchdowns (hand it to LT) they would have won the game...
 
ForksPhin said:
Yeah, it is not a concern with Tom Brady on the other sideline. And that is why Marty Schottenheimer is 5-13 in the playoffs.
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it shouldn't have been a concern. The Defense let them down. it had nothing to do with at-the-time unnessecary point after decision.
 
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