2018 Preseason Week 1 - Game Thoughts

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  1. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Without any preamble:

    - It's preseason football, who cares?

    - I'm going to miss Bob Griese when he retires from this.

    - I like the changes they made to the uniforms. The orange highlights are an improvement.

    - I don't mind the interview with Tom Garfinkel, but do we really need to see them standing around in the booth? You can let him talk and ask him about the parking situation while still showing us the awful third quarter pre-season football action that only psychos like me will sit down and watch.


    DEFENSE

    - The guys whose starting positions are secure looked bored and sluggish out there.

    - Mike Hull injury looked bad. I hate this ****. Nothing kills my enjoyment of football being back more than seeing a guy get his knee shredded in a damn preseason game.

    - Minkah Fitzpatrick flying across the screen like he was shot out of a cannon on a couple of back to back plays early in the game to break up passes was nice to see. Looked good when he was asked to play free safety, and then switched in at nickel CB later in the first half.

    - Jerome Baker looked unsure of himself and like he was struggling to learn his assignments (often appeared confused between plays), but made two very nice open field tackles. Just need to see him show better understanding of the defense / what he needs to do in the play.

    - Jonathan Woodard showed both a good motor and some playmaking ability. Vincent Taylor also looked very disruptive.

    - Cameron Malveaux made the roster last season because he played hard and flashed in the preseason. Tonight, the only time I noticed him was when he was being completely blown off of his spot. Especially on that Bucs touchdown.

    - I am unimpressed by our secondary depth. Walt Aikens is a really good special teams player -- a leader on that unit -- but he is a dreadful safety. Likewise, Mo Smith didn't impress me.

    - #40 Calhoun got absolutely WORKED in the second half.



    OFFENSE

    - Looks like we are finally getting the no huddle / uptempo offense various coaches have been talking about for years.

    - Mike Gesicki makes even horribly thrown incomplete passes exciting. If this guy fails, I won't be able to explain it.

    - How often do you draft a big, physical, and extremely fast running back with soft hands, and come away most impressed... by his pass blocking? Well, Kalen Ballage impressed me with that tonight in the Dolphins' first series. He then very much failed to impress me by fumbling and also missing some wide open running lanes.

    - Ryan Tannehill's movement with the ball / mobility in the pocket looked fine. Good, even. Now to get the accuracy back.

    - I like Senorise Perry. He's competent depth and he's a physical runner. On a team that looks like it wants to run a finesse offense, and that just lost a very physical player in Jarvis Landry, I think there is a real need for someone like that.

    - I also saw some good things from backup RB Buddy Howell... but he also needs to not put the football on the ground.

    - I think the enigmatic Thomas Duarte has about a zero point one percent chance to make the roster, but I liked what I saw from him tonight. He was smooth as a receiving target and he made a couple of nice blocks.

    - Albert Wilson and Jakeem Grant on the field together with two TEs. Pretty interesting.

    - Eric Smith, our backup RT, is a good football player. I hope he stays healthy this year. Sam Young struggled a little bit at LT, but I thought he was mostly okay. Isaac Asiata DESTROYED somebody on a run in the second half. That one stood out.

    - I will not dogpile on Brock Osweiler. I ragged on the guy a lot before he was a Dolphin. Now that he is a Dolphin, I will let you guys do it. I will just say ONE THING in defense of Brock Osweiler, and I can't believe I'm going to do this. When you are stupidly tall -- six foot eight -- your windup throwing the football is going to take just a split second longer than a guy who is a few inches shorter. And that is absolutely going to make it just a little bit easier for defensive linemen to get their hands up to block the football. And it doesn't matter if you're 6'4" or 6'8", these big guys with long arms can still get their hands up in the passing lanes.

    - 6th receiver: Isaiah Ford. Francis Owusu also showed up well tonight. Leonte Carroo? Polish that resume.


    SPECIAL TEAMS

    - I'm concerned about our kicking situation.

    - Our return teams also didn't look particularly great. Penalties.


    And that's all I got, folks.
     
  2. Phinatic8u

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    Bob Griese makes these games so enjoyable.
     
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    Well stated and I agree. Lets hope the cream rises, penalties stay down as do slow starts. I don't care about wins or losses in preseason but improvement on areas where we lacked is what I'm looking at. Oh, and i wont miss Griese if he retires
     
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    I agree on all fronts

    We need to see better results from the starting D. Or is it just a Fitzpatrick thing? Dude owns us

    Carroo is gone for sure. Owusu or Ford would be solid to keep

    Perry ran hard i thought also
     
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    Our d-line better wake up and start playing the run better. We don't need to suffer through another season of watching our line get shredded every week on the ground.
     
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    Presaeason or no preseason - the offense cannot score points or maintain momentum. It has been an ongoing problem for years, does anyone think this will change game 1 etc?.

    The defense cannot defend the middle of the field, it’s a simple throw and catch, again an ongoing problem.

    Minkah played well I thought, have the LB’s improved? Incomplete.

    Rizi better get his unit and players straightened out.

    Nice to see the tempo, would have liked to see Ryan get one more series.
     
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    Uniform adjustments were the highlight, along with the announcing crew.

    It's indeed going to be numbing when Bob Griese decides he can't do this anymore. It will be like breaking the connection to the beginnings of the franchise. Griese and those guys allow just the proper amount of focus and significance to a preseason game, while mostly not insulting intelligence toward what you are looking at, which is the equivalent of a Monday practice round.

    I hope the washed out uniforms are gone forever. I was amazed at how well the darker aqua returned so much toward the classic scheme that the motion sickness and dark stripe and other new garbage wasn't as noticeable.

    Not many special players out there on defense. Get used to it, although there will be the occasional situation uptick game in which the energy level will overwhelm the opponent and the defense look much better than it is. Overall without Suh it reminded me of how much the Canes suffered once the long string of great defensive tackles ended when Vince Wilfork turned pro.

    Minkah Fitzpatrick would mean so much more if the preceding first round pick were similar caliber, and not someone like Charles Harris. That's what makes the college season openers so much more interesting than these pro debut games. The premier college programs have all those elite 4 and 5 star recruits and they jump off the screen doing one thing or another, even if it's merely against Bethune Cookman. But with the pros and only a handful of top picks legitimately eligible to star, it's slim pickings and always kind of disappointing, unless you somehow stack one gem on top of another. Gesicki has rare traits in a meaningful area and should be very intriguing.

    Trivia question was cupcakes. Of course, it helps that Ottis Anderson is my all time favorite Cane.
     
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    These correlate directly. Hard to know if A will happen this year until B happens
     
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    Really? From my perspective I heard guys stumbling over their words and struggling to pronounce names and it got kind of annoying. I get he's a Dolphins great, but as far as broadcasting is concerned, that group is not good.
     
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    Me laughing at him is what makes them enjoyable lol.
     
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    I really enjoyed Dick Stockton's extremely awkward comment about Jameis Winston and Nat Moore's desperate attempt to steer him on from it.
     
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    My sentiments exactly. It was an awful crew imo, him saying Gesicki was to blame on that awful throw from Fales was icing on the cake really.
     
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    The only point I add is that the defensive scheme seemed too simplistic. it is concerning based on last year's performance. I do believe we are holding a lot of our personnel packages for the regular season. We simply invested too much on new coaches in order to improve and progress the defense. Matt Burke needs to show us in week 1 that he is adapting to the new NFL. If we run that base cover 2 trash in week 1 then we need to panic
     
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    I thought this was like every other recent preseason where the D was dominant in camp and when we got to live action we stunk up the joint. Is that the failure of the D or is our O so bad that our D is impressive against them? You be the judge.
     
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    Owusu has skills...!
     
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    Burke looks like he is going to be a liability this year. I saw a lot of the same issues this team had last year, especially on Defense.
     
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    Did hold them to 2.5 yards per carry. Forced a lot of third downs, but didn't get enough stops.
     
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    They play vanilla D in preseason.
     
  19. J. David Wannyheimer

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    There is no gameplanning in the first game of the preseason, and they keep things as simple and stupid as possible. So I can't really evaluate the defensive playcalls.

    I feel like you can get a good idea for the overall talent level of the football team, and see how individual players look in a specific context, but it's hard for me to draw conclusions about the coaching staff after tonight. And I say this as someone who is extremely skeptical of Matt Burke.
     
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    It's hard to judge the O on the 1st QTR alone since the 1st QTR is our weakest QTR. Maybe next game they can out the starters in the 3rd or 4th just to shake things up.

    I really like the new Unis, might have to upgrade my son's Tannehill jersey depending how the season goes.

    When its vanilla vs vanilla I think talent wins out so there are some slight concerns there since the Bucs aren't that talented but each of their QB's had a TD drive.
     
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    I think it’s time to move on from our announcers. My goodness.
     
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    Owusu works as hard or harder than anyone in camp.
     
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    It's preseason. there are rarely teams that are going to unveil their blitz packages and do crazy stuff on D. Preseason defense is very vanilla.
     
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    to play devils advocate, how do you measure something like "hard work"? Especially if you're not around the team?
     
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    That shouldn't be an excuse. If a team knows they're weak in the first quarter they need to do something to ensure that doesn't become a trend.

    But at the same time: preseason.
     
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    It's preseason. Therefor I won't judge. Preseason is all about evaluating the bottom of the roster and getting back into playing shape. The first time I'll worry is if this team goes out and lays an absolute egg in week 1 and gets blown out. That's when I'll worry
     
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    I sure would like our vanilla D to stop their vanilla O. If our vanilla can't beat their vanilla, that's troubling to me. Beat the man in front of you.
     
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    Teams do gameplan for the third preseason game and actually attempt to play a close approximation of one real half of football. If we go out and stink up the joint then, that's when I will worry.
     
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    Gesicki should cure Miami's lack of early scoring problem. He is a lethal weapon that cannot be stopped. You have to deploy him and make the defense hurt.

    Oh and someone get this man Baker a shield. He should be starting like NOW.
     
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    The problem is that we’ve been telling ourselves for years that it’s vanilla because it’s only preseason but then that **** continues in the regular season. The first drive of our offense was typical Dolphins and so telling: looks good in the beginning, penalty, missed field goal, 0 points. This is what separates us from the good teams.

    We’re still a mediocre team with a mediocre coaching staff and with a few lucky bounces we’ll be 10-6 and with a few unlucky bounces we’re going to be 6-10.
     
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    Wanted to see more of the first team offense, Tannehill and gang were looking great until...What? Are you kidding me? Another penalty by the Oline? Way to go Juwan James....They opened with 3 passes instead of running plays and were crisp. It was fun to watch before the penalty that put them back with 1st and 20. They still managed to get the first down. Then Tanny led Amendola too far on a pass and not sure if Ballage sat down where he was supposed to on the next pass. And of course, Sanders missed the 3 point attempt ( it was a 53 yarder but? )...smh...I turned off the TV after that...lol Not really, but that could have been a great opening drive. Tampa played their rapist / thief / crotch grabbing QB against our 2's for way too long, left in other starters, for awhile. Ford, Ballage (other than trying to extend a good run and fumbling), Minkah, Smythe, and Baker all played well in their first games. Gesicki easily could have scored his first TD if Fales did not throw it so far out of bounds (somehow Gesicki almost still caught it..wth)... I was surprised the defense gave up so much ground. I do realize we were very vanilla and didn't play most of our playmakers and Tampa played more 1's and 2's much longer than us. But when Bryce Petty drove down the field to take the lead with just a couple of minutes left ( He actually looked good tonight ), and our D gave no effort to stop them it was Disheartening. I get it, players trying to make the team at the end...It still S$%3cked. Go Fins!!!
     
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    For those freaking out about our D in preseason game 1 :rolleyes:....

    Jones did not play
    Wake did not play
    Hayes did not play
    Quinn played 6 snaps
    Alonso played 6 snaps
    McCain played 6 snaps
    Howard played 14 snaps
    McDonald played 14 snaps

    ...meanwhile the Bucs kept their 1st team in much longer, hell Winston played all the way till halftime!



    Calm down. o_O
     
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    Miami served up baked chicken and vanilla ice cream, Tampa served a spicy enchilada and hot fudge sunday. Y'all'd rather eat from Tampa's plate tonight, admit it.

    From the people I've read that have attended practice, this performance mimics the practice performances of this team.
     
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    Put me into the category of "not going to hurl myself off of a building for the performance of a preseason game"
     
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    If defenses play vanilla then why didn't our offense "tear it up"?
     
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    Not sure what some of you expected to happen last night. Preseason heroes means jack crap.
    The whole point of preseason is to get a feel for being back on the field, stretch your legs and get your bearings. We've been here too many times....dominating in ps and then horse manure in the season. Individual readiness of specific players is all that matters to me. Baker, mink, gisecki, ballage, drake...etc didn't disappoint.
     
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    What was it?
     
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    I agree that preseason is about individual players, who works well together, timing for starters, etc. However, it sure would be nice to dominant someone.
     
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    Do we know anything about Hayes injury? Hull, I hate injuries for any team, looks like a worry. We shall see.
     
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    Burke sucks. He sucked last year and he will suck this year. Gase should be fired at end of season if defense is atrocious again. He was the one who promoted Burke instead of going out and getting someone whose done it before and done it well. It’s going to be a long year watching our defense.
     

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