We have 2nd and two from I think the 18..Tom Brady on the sideline..all the momentum in the world and we throw behind wallace and then get sacked. Run the ball, kill clock, keep Brady off the field! No we change the field goal, which was worse case senerio, into a long one miss it and the rest is typical Patriot history!
2nd and two changed the game!
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my thoughts EXACTLY.... that's the problem with Sherman. 2 runs there "probably" gets 2 yards.. drive continues, clock runs, all is good. even if they get stopped, shorter fg is "probably" good. puts them up 3 scores.. plus the refs blow
How the collapsed happened at this point isn't even worth discussing. It's that it happened at all, again. If it wasn't this specific circumstance, it would've been another. The play that really screwed Miami was yet another sack-fumble. Every week there's a sack fumble. Every. Week. This kind of failure is embedded in the team's psyche or at least the QB's. This team expects to lose every week because every week the other 52 guys on the roster watch their QB make horrible plays in crunch time.
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Wallace should have caught that ball. It was a game changer. RT keeps getting sacked on 3rd down. Not good.
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Sherman needs to go. His play calling is terrible.
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sack/fumble on brady...goes the other way!? The refs turned this game into the pats favor, no other way to look at it. Horrible horrible officiating - we can say what ever we want about Miami not executing or missing a FG but if you watched the game you saw how the refs took the momentum away from us and gave the pats every chance to take back the game, which they did...complete BS.
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Hey Sherman, on obvious passing downs, when you KNOW they are bringing heat, try a DRAW. Oh yeah, it's the latest thing. With a speed back like Lamar it's a guaranteed 5 yards.
Idiot.
Idiot.
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Precisely. I know there were terrible penalties called, but those calls would be a non-issue if Sherman would've run twice here and either put up a TD or got the gimme FG. This string of plays changed the entire complexion of the game. Just 10 total offensive plays later the Pats evened the score at 17!
The horrendous "Illegal Batting" penalty was called when we had already lost control of the game and trailed 20-17. So while I was cursing up a storm at the call and completely disagree with it, to be fair we had already shot ourselves in the foot and blew this thing.
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Yup! Was it the best throw in the world? Nope. Would 75% of receivers make that catch? Yup. Would 99% of "elite" receivers make that catch? Absolutely. Anyone want to guess which one of those "elite" the 1% is?
I think the field goal they should've made damned sure they came out of there with nothing less than would've been the game-changer, not the pass to Wallace.
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And you blame that sack on Tannehill, right? Considering that Ninkovich goes untouched and gets to Tannehill within 2 seconds of the snap I'm really not sure what he was supposed to do differently.
Should he have thrown to a covered WR who was barely even into his route and not looking for the ball yet?
Should he have just thrown the ball away in the pocket, resulting in an intentional grounding?
Or should he have done what he did, which was to allude Ninkovich somehow and then pray that the line (Jerry specifically) could have at least blocked for a split second, which of course it failed to do and allowed Hightower to sack him just after escaping from Ninkovich.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphins/0ap2000000271133/Patriots-defense-sack-9-yd-loss
And FYI if you can't depend on your FG kicker to make a 46 yard FG then you've got much bigger problems than offensive play calling.
No. Sherman. :up:
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I don't agree with that either, but at least you aren't putting that on Tannehill. Personally I prefer to not be timid, I want my team going for the other teams throat vs just trying to get a FG. That was Sparano / Henning mentality that everyone here seemed to just hate and now you and others are advocating that style of play? I just don't get it. Please guys pick a side and stick to it.
I haven't seen you blame Sturgis for missing yet another makeable FG though. Since you're so big on stats why aren't you hammering him for missing these kicks?
When you're up three scores a third of the way into the third quarter, you have the other team by the throat. There's no need to "go" for it IMO. The Dolphins would've been 95% likely to win that game at that point. You also want to keep the opposing team and its crowd out of the game in terms of energy and momentum, rather than giving it to them. You play for the FG there and demoralize them.
Sherman is to blame IMO because he didn't call plays that kept that win probability intact, and this is the second week in a row he's done that. He's making a good case for getting himself fired IMO.
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I give 0% credit to those statistical odds projections in football games, especially against Tom Brady and the Pats (and the refs) in their house. I get it you're content to just go for a FG and go up 17 early in the 3rd quarter and think that's enough to beat New England. Not me, I'd much rather try and go up 21.
But you're still not addressing the FACT that a 46 yard FG is VERY makeable. Where's the blame on Sturgis? I mean Tannehill AND Sherman did give him a shot at a FG that any FG kicker in the league should be able to make.