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3 rounds of Dolphins 2009 draft....let me know what you think?

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I am not gonna predict the spot where we pick but i would imagine it will be the second half of the first round.

1st Round
Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State- Versatility-Able to play any spot in the secondary. Is tough enough to be a safety, is fast and instinctive enough to play corner. Tremendous ball skills. Very physical throughout the play. Able blitzer. Big upside. Rarely beat deep. And yes i think he falls to the mid first round he doesnt have the elite speed and if he runs a poor time at the combine he will fall to the 15-20 range plus alot of the teams in front of us need something other than CB.

2nd Rouns
A) Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia-great pass rusher, can honestly beat any tackle off the ball and uses his hands well. Has a knack for the ball and causing turnovers. His stock is flying up but wont play in a bowl game so his stock may be hurt. He will be great on that strong side for a decade he a Peezy may be the nastiest pass rushing duo in the NFL.

B) B.J. Raji, NT, Boston College (I REALLY WANT THIS KID) -Thickly built. Can show bursts of quickness off the line. Naturally strong and can anchor. Can flatten down the line of scrimmage. Playing with a fury early in 2008 after being forced to miss the entire 2007 season through no fault of his own. Could be the best pure 3-4 NT prospect in the country. Brings a load, and moves it all very well. Pushes the double team block backwards, earns holding calls, active tackler for a defensive linemen, who plays with a LB mentality. Future NT and a stud to boot good size at 6-2 and has an ability to push the pocket to stuff the run and can also get after the QB.

3rd Round
Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama-Johnson does not have incredible size for a safety (6'0'' and 187 pounds), so he is not one of those prototypical huge-hitting defensive backs, but he is a good hitter and a standout in pass coverage. He has outstanding vision and is great at reading quarterbacks. He has been used occasionally at cornerback for those reasons and his speed (around 4.4. in the 40-yard-dash) could enable him to make a permanent move to the outside at the next level. BP loves guys who can play in a number of places this guy is a ball hawk he may be small but he makes up for it with ball skills and intensity.


So our depth chart next season on D could be counting only on what we have and the draft no FA's. Bold are the draft picks.

Will Allen Langford Ferguson Holliday Malcolm Jenkins
Thomas Starks B.J. Raji Merling J. Allen

Sintim Crowder Ayodele Porter
Roth Torbor Moses

Bell Hill
Culver Rashad Johnson

I see Jenkins starting DAY ONE same with Sintim he will be a play maker on the strong side for years. Rashad Johnson and B.J. Raji will eventually work their way into the lineup just not right away.

So what do you think what needs work or is it good enough. What would you change?
 
You could pretty much forget that draft. Jenkins goes higher, Sintim goes higher, Raji goes higher, Johnson goes higher.

You pretty much just posted a wishlist.
 
yeah, this is very unlikely... of those 4 guys, 2 and maybe 3 will be in the first round IMO, not a single one of them is drafted past the second round that's for sure
 
Jenkins will be LONG GONE by the time we pick Sintim will grade himself into the first round, so he is absolutely a possibility for the Dolphins when they pick. Raji will also go higher, and NO FREAKIN WAY Rashad Johnson slips to the third round.
 
dolphinator86 said:
I am not gonna predict the spot where we pick but i would imagine it will be the second half of the first round.

1st Round
Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State- Versatility-Able to play any spot in the secondary. Is tough enough to be a safety, is fast and instinctive enough to play corner. Tremendous ball skills. Very physical throughout the play. Able blitzer. Big upside. Rarely beat deep. And yes i think he falls to the mid first round he doesnt have the elite speed and if he runs a poor time at the combine he will fall to the 15-20 range plus alot of the teams in front of us need something other than CB.

2nd Rouns
A) Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia-great pass rusher, can honestly beat any tackle off the ball and uses his hands well. Has a knack for the ball and causing turnovers. His stock is flying up but wont play in a bowl game so his stock may be hurt. He will be great on that strong side for a decade he a Peezy may be the nastiest pass rushing duo in the NFL.

B) B.J. Raji, NT, Boston College (I REALLY WANT THIS KID) -Thickly built. Can show bursts of quickness off the line. Naturally strong and can anchor. Can flatten down the line of scrimmage. Playing with a fury early in 2008 after being forced to miss the entire 2007 season through no fault of his own. Could be the best pure 3-4 NT prospect in the country. Brings a load, and moves it all very well. Pushes the double team block backwards, earns holding calls, active tackler for a defensive linemen, who plays with a LB mentality. Future NT and a stud to boot good size at 6-2 and has an ability to push the pocket to stuff the run and can also get after the QB.

3rd Round
Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama-Johnson does not have incredible size for a safety (6'0'' and 187 pounds), so he is not one of those prototypical huge-hitting defensive backs, but he is a good hitter and a standout in pass coverage. He has outstanding vision and is great at reading quarterbacks. He has been used occasionally at cornerback for those reasons and his speed (around 4.4. in the 40-yard-dash) could enable him to make a permanent move to the outside at the next level. BP loves guys who can play in a number of places this guy is a ball hawk he may be small but he makes up for it with ball skills and intensity.


So our depth chart next season on D could be counting only on what we have and the draft no FA's. Bold are the draft picks.

Will Allen Langford Ferguson Holliday Malcolm Jenkins
Thomas Starks B.J. Raji Merling J. Allen

Sintim Crowder Ayodele Porter
Roth Torbor Moses

Bell Hill
Culver Rashad Johnson

I see Jenkins starting DAY ONE same with Sintim he will be a play maker on the strong side for years.Rashad Johnson and B.J. Raji will eventually work their way into the lineup just not right away.

So what do you think what needs work or is it good enough. What would you change?
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Everyone you mentioned wont last to where you have them. its a dream draft.

I woudl love to go for Raji round 1 b/c we will have a 17-26 area pick.
then Johnson at 2A b/c the man is one of the best if not hte best cover FS in the game right now. Every ball thrown at least 25 yards he has gotten to wiht his hands. Name one DB on miami that has done that the past 5 years. They dont test him often but when they do its a failed attempt.

I DOUBT we do that b/c BP will go LB round 1 for sure if not 2A. Rem they moved up to get spencer in roudn 1 a year after htey got carpenter. or did they move back and get spencer? i dont rem but either way they went back to back. We can also go Otogwe in FA and save that draft pick but we need NEW players in the secondary not FA players except for a Dunta Robinson or a Mcfadden.

RIght now Id like Raji round 1 or Ev Brown (OLB) round 1 with Johnson round 2a or maybe Byrd 2A etc.

Right now Bess and Ginn dont fit Pennys game style as opposed to Cam. Cam is his 5 yard bail out option which sadly is his NUMBER 1 option. Ginn adn Bess have speed to get down the field some and that fits Henne wiht his quick release and rocket arm so either way a WR seems useless wiht penny at QB so hopefully its henne next year.
 
If I had to predict what we'd do/what we're left with right now...I'd go:

1. B.J. Raji NT Boston College
2. Rashad Johnson S Alabama
2. Larry English WOLB Northern Illinois
3. Brandon Underwood CB Cincinnati
4. Kirston Pittman SOLB LSU
5. Michael Jones WR Arizona State
 
RoninFin4 said:
If I had to predict what we'd do/what we're left with right now...I'd go:

1. B.J. Raji NT Boston College
2. Rashad Johnson S Alabama
2. Larry English WOLB Northern Illinois
3. Brandon Underwood CB Cincinnati
4. Kirston Pittman SOLB LSU
5. Michael Jones WR Arizona State
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I love the first 3 picks. Quick question, I know cincy has 2 GOOD CB in mickens being the number 1 of hte two but is underwood the 3rd CB on that team? Reason why I ask is b/c I can't rem his name but I DO KNOW their top 2 are very good and that their 3rd CB is under the radar and is very good himself. I think underwood is the 3rd CB correct that I have in mind.

English is a good OLB taht will prob rocket up some more. But raji is good enough for a 1st round grade and his combine will warrant that. I have watched him play and man does he blow up the line with double and triple teams like its nothing. Reminded me of Jenkins. Fergie is a good stop gap for this year but he does nothing past taking up 1-2 blockers. Hes servicable but thats about it. MOre info on pittman plz, if I recall isnt he about 235 lbs or so? making him small for a 3-4 and NOT in favor of this FO as far as size on that spot.

BTW is Merling a 4yr or a 3 yr guy? b/c I know this FO is looking for players that have a lot of experience playing and games under their belts and are leaders or captains and if I recall Johnson is the leader of that Secondary and one of hte smartest players there are so that should help us out. I relaly wnat Ev. Brown or Raji right now in round 1.
 
SR 7 said:
I love the first 3 picks. Quick question, I know cincy has 2 GOOD CB in mickens being the number 1 of hte two but is underwood the 3rd CB on that team? Reason why I ask is b/c I can't rem his name but I DO KNOW their top 2 are very good and that their 3rd CB is under the radar and is very good himself. I think underwood is the 3rd CB correct that I have in mind.

English is a good OLB taht will prob rocket up some more. But raji is good enough for a 1st round grade and his combine will warrant that. I have watched him play and man does he blow up the line with double and triple teams like its nothing. Reminded me of Jenkins. Fergie is a good stop gap for this year but he does nothing past taking up 1-2 blockers. Hes servicable but thats about it. MOre info on pittman plz, if I recall isnt he about 235 lbs or so? making him small for a 3-4 and NOT in favor of this FO as far as size on that spot.

BTW is Merling a 4yr or a 3 yr guy? b/c I know this FO is looking for players that have a lot of experience playing and games under their belts and are leaders or captains and if I recall Johnson is the leader of that Secondary and one of hte smartest players there are so that should help us out. I relaly wnat Ev. Brown or Raji right now in round 1.
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You're right, Brandon Underwood is UC's 3rd CB/nickel back. However, Mike Mickens had minor surgery and missed their game against Syracuse and will miss their regular season finale at Hawaii, so Underwood will get another start. Another thing about Underwood is that he's a pretty heady player - he was at Ohio State for a while then transferred back to UC after an injury (can't remember what it was), but he's one of those guys you put in the category of better pro than college player. Personally, having seen them, Underwood is the best athlete, just a little raw in technique.

As Chambers mentioned with Soliai's antics, I doubt he is on the team next year, or will ever even amount to much in the NFL, what a waste. So if we went Raji and English, 1 and 2, I wouldn't be upset at all.

Merling played 3 years at Clemson, starting two of them I believe. Rashad Johnson has a lot of experience, and truth be told, if you can learn Saban's complex system, a la Renaldo Hill at Michigan State, he should be able to learn Todd Bowles system - good point about the FO.

Also, if they do end up with a position where a Sintim, Brown, Orakpo, etc. isn't available and they draft Raji, I wonder how much thought they'd give to moving Phillip Merling to SOLB, if they haven't given it thought already? I know he spent a day or two in rookie camp working out there, but was still recovering from hernia surgery so they put those plans on hold. Personally, I think he's ballooned as it is trying to hold 290lbs on that frame to play 3-4 DE...obvisouly if that's where the FO likes him than so be it, but he played tremendously well in the 270-275 range in college.
 
Like everyone here said, that draft is a dream draft. My draft would go like:

1.Clint Sintim
2A. Rashad johnson
2B.Larry English(If he lasts this long)
3.Antoine Caldwell
4.Ron Brace
 
B.J. Raji will be available 15 to 25, and we all know the Dolphins are at best a .500 team, whose overachieving so a deep playoff run is highly unlikely and a couple of games slipping here and there are not at all impossible depending on the OL situation. So for me with the needs and talent at other postions being more dominant, pressing and sexier I can name 30 players who could easily go before Raji, and they'll be CBs, LBs and OL not to mention the two Jr. QBs if they join in. So everyone here don't sing the the doom and gloom song just yet, the fat lady hasn't sung and if the Dolphins can put together a draft that includes

1-Raji NT
2a-Brinkley ILB
2b- Alphoso Smith or Victor Harris CB
3-R. Barden WR

I'll be greatly content. Anything after that is a whatever to me.
 
I'd love for Crabtree / Maualuga / Laurinitius or someone to drop and some shmuck to trade out of the second round to get them. That would give us three defensive impact players.

Raji is the one guy I want this year. I wouldn't mind if we took him anywhere on the board but there's no way he'll be there at 2b, no way.
 
who is ron brace? dont have info on him but Im assuming you are speaking about caldwell the C from ALa? CUZ I LOVE THAT KID! he wont last to 3 though, he might be around at 2B.
 
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