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30 years later... Marino still ahead of Mahomes

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In case no one saw this, I enjoyed reading it. Marino really changed the game and still has the most TDs ever in first six years in NFL. (sorry if posted elsewhere)

"Marino tossed an average of 32 touchdown passes across his first six years in the league, which was more than 30 years ago. Marino exceeded 40 touchdowns twice in that time, including 48 in his sophomore season.

Mahomes, meanwhile, threw an eye-popping 50 touchdowns in 2018 and followed it up with totals of 26, 38, and 37. For Mahomes to exceed Marino, he’d need to throw nine more touchdowns than he did a season ago — without Pro Bowl receiver Tyreek Hill on the roster, who was traded to Miami this offseason.

Mahomes needs to surpass 45 touchdowns in 2023, something he’s done just once in his career, to capture the top spot."

www.thephinsider.com

Dan Marino is all that stands between Patrick Mahomes and another touchdown record

More than 30 years later, Dan Marino remains the best of the best.
www.thephinsider.com www.thephinsider.com
 
No slight at Mahomes, but in today's game, Danny would throw 50+ regularly. He'd diagnose the coverage in a blink. He'd identify the hot route, then manipulate the coverage to his liking. Any throw could be a house call. He'd be a damn cheat code in today's game.

And with our current receiving group...Jesus! Imagine....
 
superphin said:
It's not really fair to say the 1st 6 years since Mahomes only played 1 game his rookie year. Marino's 1st 6 years he played 87 games while Mahomes is currently at 63 games and if he plays 17 will have played 80 games in his 6th year.
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While you make a valid point re: number of games played — it has already been pointed out that Mahomes has the “unfair” advantage of playing during this era.

The fact that it’d take Mahomes or any QB anywhere close to the same number of games to match or surpass Marino — considering the heavy rules/era advantage — really goes to show how extraordinary Marino’s accomplishments really are.
 
DrMultimedia said:
In case no one saw this, I enjoyed reading it. Marino really changed the game and still has the most TDs ever in first six years in NFL. (sorry if posted elsewhere)

"Marino tossed an average of 32 touchdown passes across his first six years in the league, which was more than 30 years ago. Marino exceeded 40 touchdowns twice in that time, including 48 in his sophomore season.

Mahomes, meanwhile, threw an eye-popping 50 touchdowns in 2018 and followed it up with totals of 26, 38, and 37. For Mahomes to exceed Marino, he’d need to throw nine more touchdowns than he did a season ago — without Pro Bowl receiver Tyreek Hill on the roster, who was traded to Miami this offseason.

Mahomes needs to surpass 45 touchdowns in 2023, something he’s done just once in his career, to capture the top spot."

www.thephinsider.com

Dan Marino is all that stands between Patrick Mahomes and another touchdown record

More than 30 years later, Dan Marino remains the best of the best.
www.thephinsider.com www.thephinsider.com
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And let’s not forget- it was much harder to throw in that era than it is today. As evidenced by everyone throwing for 40+ TDs after the rule changes of 2003 and 2007 - even scabby QBs.
 
Ninja Foot said:
No slight at Mahomes, but in today's game, Danny would throw 50+ regularly. He'd diagnose the coverage in a blink. He'd identify the hot route, then manipulate the coverage to his liking. Any throw could be a house call. He'd be a damn cheat code in today's game.

And with our current receiving group...Jesus! Imagine....
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Bruh...the fact that he still holds records...all these years later...all these rule changes later...is astonishing.

Ya...Danny Boy on THIS offense? The league owners would have a meeting to ban him...set him up for a felony...something.
 
They say records are meant to be broken, but rings live forever.
 
Ninja Foot said:
No slight at Mahomes, but in today's game, Danny would throw 50+ regularly. He'd diagnose the coverage in a blink. He'd identify the hot route, then manipulate the coverage to his liking. Any throw could be a house call. He'd be a damn cheat code in today's game.

And with our current receiving group...Jesus! Imagine....
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Not to mention, he wouldn't have to be worried about getting hit. At least not the way defensive players could in the 80's and 90's.
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
Not to mention, he wouldn't have to be worried about getting hit. At least not the way defensive players could in the 80's and 90's.
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So true! And even back then he was rarely hit. It was amazing how possibly the least-mobile QB in the league was the best at taking just a step or two in any direction to evade rushers. Guys would be drooling over the fact that they're about to sack Marino, and then he'd take a little shuffle-step and they'd miss him!
 
superphin said:
It's not really fair to say the 1st 6 years since Mahomes only played 1 game his rookie year. Marino's 1st 6 years he played 87 games while Mahomes is currently at 63 games and if he plays 17 will have played 80 games in his 6th year.
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Mahomes has already been in 2 SB’s and has one win. I have no doubt Marino would have gladly given up a lot of those TD throws for at least one SB win in his career.
 
His numbers in the old NFL are truly astounding.Today he would routinely be tossing 50 TD's and 5,000 yards.That would be an average year for him.

Dan and Jerry Rice really stand out as we see passing stats go through the roof.Those two guys were putting up modern stats back then!

Don Shula the GM really failed Dan. Given a better Defense he would have seen multiple SB's.
 
And arguably the craziest record of ALL? 759 Pass Attempts without a SACK? That is insane. Almost seems like typo. Combo of better pass blocking Lines, laser of a release, and an unprecedented Pocket Presence!! A true Artist he was 🐬🐬
 
Ninja Foot said:
No slight at Mahomes, but in today's game, Danny would throw 50+ regularly. He'd diagnose the coverage in a blink. He'd identify the hot route, then manipulate the coverage to his liking. Any throw could be a house call. He'd be a damn cheat code in today's game.

And with our current receiving group...Jesus! Imagine....
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The league would have to change the rules, In today's game Dan would cause a rule change. Yes he was that good.
 
superphin said:
It's not really fair to say the 1st 6 years since Mahomes only played 1 game his rookie year. Marino's 1st 6 years he played 87 games while Mahomes is currently at 63 games and if he plays 17 will have played 80 games in his 6th year.
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I think it's entirely fair. Marino was good enough to get on the field in his rookie year in a time where sitting a year or two was still fairly common. Mahomes didn't get on the field, partially not his fault but its the way the cookie crumbles.

Doing it the other way you could also argue Mahomes got way more time to acclimare before his games counted.
 
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