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NFL third-year QBs outlook for 2022: Will Tua Tagovailoa or Jalen Hurts take the next step?

Let's predict how well quarterbacks from the 2020 draft class will fare this season
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This guy fails to understand that no supporting cast (all around) the past few years goes hand in hand, in why Tua has performed the way he did. And why maybe other QBs was helped along the way...
I made some responses to some of this author's statements lol...

Supporting cast​

If you ask me, no team did more to help their quarterback and improve his support-cast environment this offseason than the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill, Terron Armstead, Connor Williams, Cedrick Wilson, Chase Edmonds and Raheem Mostert in the backfield, and Mike McDaniel, a Kyle Shanahan protege, as the new head coach.
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[No sh**, its because all the other teams already supported their QB from day 1.]

Season outlook​

*Tagovailoa is such a complicated case study. He was surgical at Alabama but hardly got touched in the pocket and threw to four future first-round picks at receiver and handed the ball to a pair of future first-round running backs. Was it him or the environment that got him drafted No. 5 overall?

Since joining the Dolphins, **he's had mostly the opposite environment and has been a disappointment, no question about it. Plus, he's not remotely close to being the physical specimen of most of the other budding young star quarterbacks in the league.

His situation has been vastly improved, and that will undoubtedly boost his productivity. But in today's NFL, a coach -- even a supposedly brilliant one like McDaniel -- can only scheme receivers open so much. ***Tagovailoa remaining the starter or losing the gig after this season will hinge upon his ability to make challenging throws. I haven't seen him do that with much regularity to date, and his limited arm and mobility indicate to me he's never going to be that type of quarterback in the NFL.

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*[Im pretty sure thats the same offense that Jalen Hurts played alongside in the same year]

**[Dissapointment?? Are you aware there is a difference between having a mediocre OL, or mediocre WR, or a mediocre Running game; than Tua having the combination of all 3- the WORST ranked OL, WR and Running game?]

***[Well i guess youve made up your mind on how you feel about Tua as a QB based off of these past 2 years ] 👌👌🤡🤡
 
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Yoodakine56 said:
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NFL third-year QBs outlook for 2022: Will Tua Tagovailoa or Jalen Hurts take the next step?

Let's predict how well quarterbacks from the 2020 draft class will fare this season
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

This guy fails to understand that no supporting cast (all around) the past few years goes hand in hand, in why Tua has performed the way he did. And why maybe other QBs was helped along the way...
I made some responses to some of this author's statements lol...

Supporting cast​

If you ask me, no team did more to help their quarterback and improve his support-cast environment this offseason than the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill, Terron Armstead, Connor Williams, Cedrick Wilson, Chase Edmonds and Raheem Mostert in the backfield, and Mike McDaniel, a Kyle Shanahan protege, as the new head coach.
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[No sh**, its because all the other teams already supported their QB from day 1.]

Season outlook​

*Tagovailoa is such a complicated case study. He was surgical at Alabama but hardly got touched in the pocket and threw to four future first-round picks at receiver and handed the ball to a pair of future first-round running backs. Was it him or the environment that got him drafted No. 5 overall?

Since joining the Dolphins, **he's had mostly the opposite environment and has been a disappointment, no question about it. Plus, he's not remotely close to being the physical specimen of most of the other budding young star quarterbacks in the league.

His situation has been vastly improved, and that will undoubtedly boost his productivity. But in today's NFL, a coach -- even a supposedly brilliant one like McDaniel -- can only scheme receivers open so much. ***Tagovailoa remaining the starter or losing the gig after this season will hinge upon his ability to make challenging throws. I haven't seen him do that with much regularity to date, and his limited arm and mobility indicate to me he's never going to be that type of quarterback in the NFL.

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*[Im pretty sure thats the same offense that Jalen Hurts played alongside in the same year]

**[Dissapointment?? Are you aware there is a difference between having a mediocre OL, or mediocre WR, or a mediocre Running game; than Tua having the combination of all 3- the WORST ranked OL, WR and Running game?]

***[Well i guess youve made up your mind on how you feel about Tua as a QB based off of these past 2 years ] 👌👌🤡🤡
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Not too bad...overall fairly, fair. What I don't get is, "limited mobility." Huh? Not that he's Lamar are Josh, but he's elusive, especially in the pocket, and does well by himself once he's in the open field. He's a fine athlete for a QB.
 
It really depends on the author’s definition of “big time throws.” If he means 60 air yard bomb or 15 yard out lasers, then ya we haven’t seen that much from Tua. If he mean high efficiency on 3rd down, red zone, and the 4th quarter, then ya we’ve seen a good amount of big time throws. For me, I don’t need the rocket arm anymore. Loved it with Dan but now I’m perfectly fine with the surgeon. That’s what I believe we’ll get with Tua this year.
 
Russell Wilson faced a bit of scrutiny early in his career (size) (ability to see the field) although being a 3rd RD pick helped simmer the critics

Critics going to do their thing Russell won and won some more and then they shut up and moved onto the next potential flame 🔥 out

Tua is going to be fine now that the the administration is on board

Tua selection was always the long burn he was injured - you don’t merely draft a guy on what he is in college but what he will become when his body fills out

I will take cerebral over creative running ability every time but we have a mix here
 
Yoodakine56 said:
His situation has been vastly improved, and that will undoubtedly boost his productivity. But in today's NFL, a coach -- even a supposedly brilliant one like McDaniel -- can only scheme receivers open so much. ***Tagovailoa remaining the starter or losing the gig after this season will hinge upon his ability to make challenging throws. I haven't seen him do that with much regularity to date, and his limited arm and mobility indicate to me he's never going to be that type of quarterback in the NFL.
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Seems like he isn’t aware of Tuas play. Tua led the league in aggressive throw percentage with 19.3% of his throws being considered aggressive throws. Burrow is the next closest at 19.2% then it’s a long way down to next relevant qb. In comparison Brady only threw about 14%, Allen was 11.3% and Mahomes was all the way down at 8.7. In fact the tight window challenging almost impossible looking completions are what have me so excited for Tua this year. The problem was what happened when he wasn’t making tight window throws. Instead of thriving off the easy stuff, everything was contested as our wideouts had zero separation (we were last in wideout average separation with only waddle being above league average and it was barely above it). I’m hopeful with Waddle/Hill/Wilson/Mostert that will change and also lead to Gesicki being left in 1v1 with linebackers. Watch other games and you’ll see wideout running 5 yards plus open fairly commonly per game, I have a hard time remembering dolphins wideouts being 5+ yards more than maybe 2-3 times in the whole season.
 
how much time out of the day do you guys spend looking for things about Tua to get upset about?
 
Bridgeburner said:
how much time out of the day do you guys spend looking for things about Tua to get upset about?
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None, so much unfair thoughts appear all over the media, it just pops up on my feed. And im sure it does everywhere else. You read this guys last opinion on how Tua never will be an NFL qb. This guy has already made up his mind about him, which is why the article is more negative than positive.
 
Yoodakine56 said:
None, so much unfair thoughts appear all over the media, it just pops up on my feed. And im sure it does everywhere else. You read this guys last opinion on how Tua never will be an NFL qb. This guy has already made up his mind about him, which is why the article is more negative than positive.
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It pops up that much because the general consensus around the league, well media and fan base wise, is that Tua hasn't shown very much.

Whether that's fair or not can be debated, but you're going to see more negative than positive until he plays more positive than negative.
 
Let me put a new light on Tua.

I believe that in 5 years, Tua will be listed as a top 5 QB, while many who were drafted before him, or are thought more highly about him now, will be out of the NFL.

Just my opinion - LOL
 
Yoodakine56 said:
"Tagovailoa remaining the starter or losing the gig after this season will hinge upon his ability to make challenging throws."
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I mean Tua was #1 in the NFL in % of challenging throws this season... #6 his rookie season... Covered WRs is all he's had to work with at this point in the NFL...These "experts" have no idea these days...
 
Yoodakine56 said:
None, so much unfair thoughts appear all over the media, it just pops up on my feed. And im sure it does everywhere else. You read this guys last opinion on how Tua never will be an NFL qb. This guy has already made up his mind about him, which is why the article is more negative than positive.
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Strange, the only place it "comes across my feed" is here where there is an army of people apparently hunting across the internet for every perceived slight. Hey, though, if you enjoy it, more power to you, I guess.
 
Bridgeburner said:
Strange, the only place it "comes across my feed" is here where there is an army of people apparently hunting across the internet for every perceived slight. Hey, though, if you enjoy it, more power to you, I guess.
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Same can be said for those who hate or dislike Tua, looking for the smallest things to cry about. Whats the difference?

Plus, what do you expect seeing a bunch of people backing their QB1 on FH. Lol, so what if i enjoy being a Tua supporter? Dont like it, dont respond. 🤫🤫🤫
 
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