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I mostly agree with this but no, if we somehow win a superbowl this year, I would absolutely take back all the horrible things I’ve been saying about Chris Grier and so would you.
Probably not. I’d give accolades to McD for being a great HC and to Tua for staying healthy. Lol

Grier seems as if he’s just been along for the ride for years. He has no vision.
 
I guess it’s not evident to me. That’s why I asked.

Ross “makes money off of the team” and that’s proof that’s all he cares about? Should he give the money back to the NFL? If he gives the money back, and the Dolphins still don’t win a playoff game, does that mean he cares more about winning?

So by him keeping Grier he’s getting richer? Gase and Flores put more money in his pocket?

Lots of NFL HC’s over the decades have been hired with little to no experience as a HC. Some have done great, some average, some not so great. Are all the owners who have hired HC’s like that putting profits over winning? What about the HC’s that went on to win a SB or had good success?

In short, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about and instead just parroting things you’ve heard other people, who also don’t know what they’re talking about, say these things. Am I close?
Sure, lots of Head Coaches were hired with no HC experience. However, they usually have years of experience being Coordinators and calling plays for their side of the ball, and over time, they pick up the nuances of proper game management. McDaniel has no experience in any of that... absolutely zero!

IOW, anyone who would hire a guy who has never run anything at any level, and not only make him the HC but also allow him to run the offense and call the plays, something he has never done, can't be too concerned with winning.

You keep mentioning profits, but as I said, all owners are making money whether their team is a winner or not. I'm sure that the team is worth a lot more now than it was when Ross took over. From my point of view, he's collecting his money, and he's putting money back into the team and stadium, but none of that is contributing to making the Dolphins a contender because he refuses to fire an incompetent GM and a HC who can't even get plays called in on time.
 
In short, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about and instead just parroting things you’ve heard other people, who also don’t know what they’re talking about, say these things. Am I close?
I form my own opinions from watching the team. I see an incompetent GM who can't even build a decent o-line and who loves signing injury-prone players. And I see a HC whose inexperience is evident when defenses take away what he wants to do, and who seems to prefer small speedy guys in a tough, physical game filled with big, strong guys.

All the offensive stats in the world won't do them any good if they continue getting pushed around by tough physical teams, keep losing to the top teams, and keep choking every time something big is on the line.

So, if you don't like my opinion, that's fine. Debating my opinion or saying that you think I'm wrong is one thing but attacking me personally by saying that I don't know what I'm talking about is uncalled for. I could say the same thing about those who think McDaniel (or Grier, or Tua) is doing a great job, but instead of stooping to that level, I just give my opinion.
 
So it doesn’t matter if Tua does or doesn’t play? Just the new guys panning out and JP and Chubb not getting injured?
If Tua doesn't play, the team may not win at all without some serious "stepping up" from elsewhere.

Tua matters and is the catalyst for the offense.

No "individual" may matter more. :cheers:
 
Once again something that could have gone in a same thread but instead knocks an original thread to page 2. All because someone thinks they are more important and has to have their own thread.
 
Sure, lots of Head Coaches were hired with no HC experience. However, they usually have years of experience being Coordinators and calling plays for their side of the ball, and over time, they pick up the nuances of proper game management. McDaniel has no experience in any of that... absolutely zero!

IOW, anyone who would hire a guy who has never run anything at any level, and not only make him the HC but also allow him to run the offense and call the plays, something he has never done, can't be too concerned with winning.

You keep mentioning profits, but as I said, all owners are making money whether their team is a winner or not. I'm sure that the team is worth a lot more now than it was when Ross took over. From my point of view, he's collecting his money, and he's putting money back into the team and stadium, but none of that is contributing to making the Dolphins a contender because he refuses to fire an incompetent GM and a HC who can't even get plays called in on time.
You’re still just making things up. McDaniel was an OC in San Fran before coming to Miami. And he’s been either an assistant or coordinator since 2006 for multiple teams.

YOU mentioned profits. Did you forget? You claimed that by keeping Grier and McD around Ross only cares about profits. I asked how keeping Grier and McD around makes the Dolphins more profitable. You still haven’t answered. And you’re doing it again. How can keeping Grier both not help make the Dolphins a contender, but make Ross earn more money. That was YOUR assertion. “Ross puts profits over winning.” So explain that comment.
 
I form my own opinions from watching the team. I see an incompetent GM who can't even build a decent o-line and who loves signing injury-prone players. And I see a HC whose inexperience is evident when defenses take away what he wants to do, and who seems to prefer small speedy guys in a tough, physical game filled with big, strong guys.

All the offensive stats in the world won't do them any good if they continue getting pushed around by tough physical teams, keep losing to the top teams, and keep choking every time something big is on the line.

So, if you don't like my opinion, that's fine. Debating my opinion or saying that you think I'm wrong is one thing but attacking me personally by saying that I don't know what I'm talking about is uncalled for. I could say the same thing about those who think McDaniel (or Grier, or Tua) is doing a great job, but instead of stooping to that level, I just give my opinion.
What is this tangent? 😂

And how did I “attack you personally”? My opinion is you’re just parroting the mantra from people who really don’t understand or know what’s going on. And saying things like “Ross puts profits over winning” is one of the catch phrases used by those people.

You wrote, “Ross puts profits over winning”. How does he do that? You still haven’t answered.
 
What is this tangent? 😂

And how did I “attack you personally”? My opinion is you’re just parroting the mantra from people who really don’t understand or know what’s going on. And saying things like “Ross puts profits over winning” is one of the catch phrases used by those people.

You wrote, “Ross puts profits over winning”. How does he do that? You still haven’t answered.

I had to go look who you’re responding to, and it’s someone who has me on ignore…that I only interacted with once…back in 2005, and we agreed on something about Ricky Williams.

Now I’m gonna be wondering “what the heck did I do to piss that dude off?”
 
There are so many variables, but 8-9 is about what I'm thinking.

Now, if Tua plays close to 17 games it could be 10-11 wins. I'm also interested to see how the running game evolves. I think that's one of the keys. Get better on short-yardage and that could add a few wins.

Obviously, the secondary is a huge concern.
If Tua gets the protection he needs yes if not about 7_10.
 
I think putting absolutes like “at least 11 wins” or “one playoff game win” is short sighted.

If the Dolphins win a playoff game, does that erase the past all of a sudden? Will McD somehow be a great HC? Grier a great GM? What if Tua had played in McD’s first playoff game and they beat the Bills, which seems likely because they almost won with Skylar, but lost in the next game. Would people be adding yet more absolutes or would they just say Grier and McD are good to go?

I think the better way to judge a coach, or GM, or player is to see if they are getting better each season. Grier has been stagnant for years. McD has had 3 seasons as a HC, and those seasons have been abnormal with injuries. But, IMO he’s been progressing. So I think Grier should be gone. McD gets more time. And those feelings are true whether we win a Super Bowl or go 8-9.
McMoron needs to go when Grier goes. Enough of these half measures. A total house cleaning will be in order. Let the new GM pick the new head coach.
 
You’re still just making things up. McDaniel was an OC in San Fran before coming to Miami. And he’s been either an assistant or coordinator since 2006 for multiple teams.

YOU mentioned profits. Did you forget? You claimed that by keeping Grier and McD around Ross only cares about profits. I asked how keeping Grier and McD around makes the Dolphins more profitable. You still haven’t answered. And you’re doing it again. How can keeping Grier both not help make the Dolphins a contender, but make Ross earn more money. That was YOUR assertion. “Ross puts profits over winning.” So explain that comment.
Was McD the play caller in his single season as OC in San Fran?
 
There are so many variables, but 8-9 is about what I'm thinking.

Now, if Tua plays close to 17 games it could be 10-11 wins. I'm also interested to see how the running game evolves. I think that's one of the keys. Get better on short-yardage and that could add a few wins.

Obviously, the secondary is a huge concern.
The modern NFL is filled with rules that favor offenses. The Eagles are a prime example of what a modern defense needs to be. You pressure QBs every play rushing 3-4 defenders and drop 7-8 guys into coverage.

On paper their league leading pass defense looks like the basis for their success. They have a ton of young players who look like studs. I would argue that their DL is their best unit and that their secondary benefited from not having to hold coverage more than a few seconds.

I lay this out because I believe if Weaver can dial up our pass rush that our secondary will be fine. I’m not worried about our guys if they only have to cover 2-3 seconds. I’m worried if Josh Allen can hang out in the pocket sipping Mai Tais waiting for a receiver to get wide open all game.
 
The modern NFL is filled with rules that favor offenses. The Eagles are a prime example of what a modern defense needs to be. You pressure QBs every play rushing 3-4 defenders and drop 7-8 guys into coverage.

On paper their league leading pass defense looks like the basis for their success. They have a ton of young players who look like studs. I would argue that their DL is their best unit and that their secondary benefited from not having to hold coverage more than a few seconds.

I lay this out because I believe if Weaver can dial up our pass rush that our secondary will be fine. I’m not worried about our guys if they only have to cover 2-3 seconds. I’m worried if Josh Allen can hang out in the pocket sipping Mai Tais waiting for a receiver to get wide open all game.
Hopefully this is the blueprint moving forward, pick some DBs once the Dline is established.
 
Was McD the play caller in his single season as OC in San Fran?
From what I read, McD would devise the game plan and play calls before the game. Shanahan would then approve, give input, and/or ask for changes to be made. Then Shanahan would call the plays during the game.
 
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