A Deeper Dive at Corner

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Maybe, but if Chop, Phillips and Chubb are getting the majority of snaps, does it make sense to use high draft capital to add another guy?

Obviously, health is a question mark there but there's only so much you can do in one draft. Edge wasn't one of my top 3 priorities. Is it a gamble? Sure, but it was a gamble to some extent whatever we did.

Agree. This is more than a one year rebuild too. I hope Miami continues to put an emphasis on physical players and the trenches. This is a good starting point.

There's a balancing act between preparing short-term and long-term. No complaints with Grant or Savaiinaea either. Both are physical players at positions of need. I also think Grant could develop as a pass rusher, and at least he's a disruptor.

But Phillips and Chubb likely won't be around much longer, so Pearce might have been a good pick too. Although, how he would fit in 2025 is a fair question. As well as potentially character concerns.

I do wonder if Mykel Williams would have been the pick if SF passed?

 

[derek]

Maybe, but if Chop, Phillips and Chubb are getting the majority of snaps, does it make sense to use high draft capital to add another guy?

Obviously, health is a question mark there but there's only so much you can do in one draft. Edge wasn't one of my top 3 priorities. Is it a gamble? Sure, but it was a gamble to some extent whatever we did.

For me, it always makes sense at the top of the draft, especially if the Edge happens to be the BPA. As fans we want to go into every year with high hopes, all holes plugged, ready to rock....but great teams are not built in 1-year vacuums or on short-term goals. Beyond their injury histories, Chubb and Phillips' contracts will weigh heavily into the equation after this season. I'll admit that I would have been a bit disappointed as a fan if they drafted an Edge that high, but I'd be surprised if Williams wasn't in the discussion.....great composition, A+ length, only 20yo, super upside.

The fact that they paid little attention to the position throughout the draft and with the UDFA class probably tells us that there aren't enough developmental snaps to go around this offseason. Hopefully it means that they have high expectations of Kamara. I don't see it in Murphy with those sub-Matt Roth tyrannosaurus arms. They will need to invest next year, for sure.

 

[derek]

I've been pondering the situation a bit more, since the markets started moving again this week, and noticed a potential opportunity....

The Cowboys just traded a third and fifth to Pittsburgh, and they are suddenly rich at corner, with 3 starting caliber players. Meanwhile, we picked up an extra third round pick in a trade down, and are anticipating a fourth for Holland. The Cowboys also have a ton of cap space, and a mid level FS, while we have a malcontent-yet-upper tier DB, who should likely be converted to their position of need soon. If Dallas leaves rookie camp confident, and Miami...not confident, it could set up the perfect storm.

TLDR: Not I'm advocating for a desperation move, but I wonder if some kind of deal could be worked out with Dallas for Diggs or Bland (now that Revel is there), with both teams feeling like they won the deal.

 

[Krush]

Kouho is too small to play the boundary, Marshall wasn't worth drafting, (I watched Florida football every week, Ramsey contract is over 5 years and I wouldn't trade him unless there is a team that's going to assume most of his future earning and lowers Miami cap hit. Ramsey does not hold the cards, he's hoping that someone come up with a deal that Miami could accept.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

For me, it always makes sense at the top of the draft, especially if the Edge happens to be the BPA. As fans we want to go into every year with high hopes, all holes plugged, ready to rock....but great teams are not built in 1-year vacuums or on short-term goals. Beyond their injury histories, Chubb and Phillips' contracts will weigh heavily into the equation after this season. I'll admit that I would have been a bit disappointed as a fan if they drafted an Edge that high, but I'd be surprised if Williams wasn't in the discussion.....great composition, A+ length, only 20yo, super upside.

The fact that they paid little attention to the position throughout the draft and with the UDFA class probably tells us that there aren't enough developmental snaps to go around this offseason. Hopefully it means that they have high expectations of Kamara. I don't see it in Murphy with those sub-Matt Roth tyrannosaurus arms. They will need to invest next year, for sure.

Spot on. Look at the Eagles. They just kept taking physically gifted players on both lines over time.

I hope Grier continues to do the same.

 

[stillhardcore]

Maybe, but if Chop, Phillips and Chubb are getting the majority of snaps, does it make sense to use high draft capital to add another guy?

Obviously, health is a question mark there but there's only so much you can do in one draft. Edge wasn't one of my top 3 priorities. Is it a gamble? Sure, but it was a gamble to some extent whatever we did.

If Grier had went Edge with the 1st pick this draft, I would have thrown my TV out the window. I think next draft should be OL/DL 1st 2 rds. in that order, but I know many will say too early to call that. Until the trenches on both sides of the ball are completely shored up, this is where I want the attention to go. I am betting 1st rd. next draft though, that Grier goes CB if a good prospect falls to us.

 

[Austin Tatious]

Looks like Jaire Alexander may be renewing his vows with the Packers and may be off the table soon.

Resolution between Jaire Alexander, Packers expected 'soon'

The Packers and CB Jaire Alexander are expected to find a resolution "soon," per ESPN's Jeremy Fowler.

packerswire.usatoday.com

 

[MARINO1384]

If Grier had went Edge with the 1st pick this draft, I would have thrown my TV out the window. I think next draft should be OL/DL 1st 2 rds. in that order, but I know many will say too early to call that. Until the trenches on both sides of the ball are completely shored up, this is where I want the attention to go. I am betting 1st rd. next draft though, that Grier goes CB if a good prospect falls to us.

The way the draft fell I would have been okay with Jalon Walker as he was incredible value at 13. Love Grant but Walker was tempting once he fell that far. He was probably around the 5th or 6th best player in the draft. Wasn’t a need and felt we’ve spent a ton of capital on edge but was something to definitely consider.

 

[AL R]

They have a bunch of young corners to compete but I feel like the end result might be trading for one near cut downs or hopefully bringing in a vet CB who gets released for a younger guy somewhere else.

 

[Austin Tatious]

In the draft, I think we rightfully focused on physicality, which was my number one priority. But due to mis-management and limited strategic thinking, they had too many holes and they couldn’t fill them all. Defensive line was literally an emergency because they didn’t have any bodies. Corner is a problem but at least they have the likes of Kohou, Storm and *gulp* Cam. So I understand the focus. It doesn’t seem like there’s a good solution at corner.

 

[The Ghost]

It feels like now or never for Smith. Went back and looked at his college highlights and it's definitely impressive.

As of now, assuming Grier brings in a vet, I think the pecking order for the 2nd boundary would be:

Duck
Smith
Marshall (was drafted with Adams & Robinson available)
Adams (received a bigger contract than the others lower on the list)
Bonner (made roster last year over Johnson & Maitre)
Robinson
Johnson
Maitre

He’s a talented kid, just had some set backs.

Getting hurt in TC as a rookie can derail you quick. The changing defenses and getting hurt again didn’t help.

I’m praying for a smooth year from him.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

He’s a talented kid, just had some set backs.

Getting hurt in TC as a rookie can derail you quick. The changing defenses and getting hurt again didn’t help.

I’m praying for a smooth year from him.

If Smith can reach his ceiling, that would definitely take care of one corner spot.

 

[vcip]

Not optimistic about Smith.

This is going to be his last shot with the Dolphins.

Almost has to make roster
There is no one else...lol

 

[dolfan91]

They have a bunch of young corners to compete but I feel like the end result might be trading for one near cut downs or hopefully bringing in a vet CB who gets released for a younger guy somewhere else.

That waiver wire at Cut Down is going to be active for sure. Unless Asante Samuels injury heals enough to the point, Miami becomes comfortable and signs him late?

 

[dolfan91]

I've mentioned this a few times over the course of the off-season, how it was possible Miami was potentially, going into the 2025 season; with the intent of playing all their young DB's they've acquired over the past few seasons.

I never figured they'd actually do it, especially with all the 1st round CB talk, before the draft.

And even more compelling is the recent talk of Dante Trader potentially being an early contributor.

I guess we have to face the fact Miami has a serious youth movement in the secondary. And intends to sink or swim with it.