A hypothetical question.

[phinfan2003]

If by some chance Martz became our OC (and no, I'm not endorsing or implying that he will become our OC since he's stated that he wants a HC job), do you think he could take a guy like Rosenfels or Lemon and make them a good passer in his passer friendly offense?

 

[serrat]

i think we are goin to keep linehan

 

[Phin_Phan]

I pray we keep Linehan, and I really dont like Martz at all.........but hey, u never know and im sure he could improve our QB's, but ill stick with Linehan

 

[KevInMotion]

martz is good, he knows what he is doing, hey, hes made kurt warner legit and he knows football........ but im happy with linny, and i think saban knows he's a good OC

 

[infiltrateib]

The worry I have with Martz is that he is inflexible.

It didn't seem like he ran with what was given to him. He had an idea for a spread offense with a nimble, pass-catching back that was, IMO, a deeper version of the Pats 2003/4 system (almost a split-back WCO that uses the back 2/3 of the field).

When his playmakers got older (Bruce, Holt, Faulk) or went their own way (Hakim), he still tried to keep the same offense. He tried to plug a 5/7 step drop deep ball offense in with a porous offensive line and a glue-mitted QB with Carr's Disease. He now has a POWER running back now in Stephen Jackson, who is underutilized. If I'm him, I switch to a traditional offense, run screens until the blitzing stops, and use the fact that even though Holt and Bruce may have lost a little bit, they're still smart players. Run timed routes, 3/5 drops, play-action. Feed off what's there.

I also think Martz outcoaches himself. He'll run 75% passes one week, 75% runs the next, just to show he can and will do it (even though he's not winning). And the defense needs work. They're almost looking like the Browns: "VH1 Where Are They Now: The Past Ten Years of Cleveland Draft Selections."

 

[FinNasty]

If by some chance Martz became our OC (and no, I'm not endorsing or implying that he will become our OC since he's stated that he wants a HC job), do you think he could take a guy like Rosenfels or Lemon and make them a good passer in his passer friendly offense?

The more important thing... could he utilize RonnieB like he utilized Marshall Faulk? If anyone could fully maximize RonnieB's receiving ability... it would be Martz...

Under the control of Saban, he would run a balanced offense, making sure Ronnie gets his carries... but he would also be able to take full advantage of Ronnie's talent in the passing game...

Now, Martz probably aint coming here... but if he did, I wouldn't object...

 

[Atila]

a bit off topic:

tory holt lost a step? hah not a chance...the guy is still YOUNG, like 27-28 and is consistantly EVERY YEAR putting up 1200+yds 10+td what are you talking about?

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

I hope we don't even THINK about hiring Martz. He is too pass happy and would basically cut down on the running game. We know we can't have that, especially if Ricky is still in the backfield with Ronnie next season.

 

[LarryFinFan]

If by some chance Martz became our OC (and no, I'm not endorsing or implying that he will become our OC since he's stated that he wants a HC job), do you think he could take a guy like Rosenfels or Lemon and make them a good passer in his passer friendly offense?

Martz would get Rosenfels and/or Lemon or whatever QB we put back there killed....look what he's done to Warner and Bulgar...we don't need that kind of OC...Besides I just can't see Martz ego and Saban's ego meshing very well. Can you imagine what Saban would do when Martz goes off to the media because he doesn't like the way Saban is holding him back ?? That would be classic....

 

[LarryFinFan]

a bit off topic:

tory holt lost a step? hah not a chance...the guy is still YOUNG, like 27-28 and is consistantly EVERY YEAR putting up 1200+yds 10+td what are you talking about?

He'll be 31 in June, but he doesn't seem to have lost any speed, as you said...

 

[finmann]

Martz would get Rosenfels and/or Lemon or whatever QB we put back there killed....look what he's done to Warner and Bulgar...we don't need that kind of OC...Besides I just can't see Martz ego and Saban's ego meshing very well. Can you imagine what Saban would do when Martz goes off to the media because he doesn't like the way Saban is holding him back ?? That would be classic....

You're are absolutely right, in his offense scheme QB's have to hold on to the ball way too long to give the WR's time to run thier routes...his QB's end up getting killed throughout the season. Say no to Martz.

 

[Shula Fan]

Just the fact that he wants to be a HC and not an OC tell me no. He wouldn't be happy here and IMO would cause T.O. type problems.

 

[Dolphins17-0]

The big issue with martz, besides that he sucks, is that his QBs get killed. his protection schemes are crap. Successful plays entail the QB picking himself up off the ground after a completed pass. Not a good thing for a young QB, which is what I hope to be developing at some point in the near future.

 

[DolfanTom]

I don't know why so many people are down on Martz as an OC!! Granted, I hope we keep Linehan for years to come, but if we are to lose him, Martz should be the number one target!

We already have a defense that will be getting better with even more talent coming on board in '06. Plus, that is Saban's forte. Martz as an OC in St. Louis was unstoppable. He may be an idiot running the whole show as a HC (losing to the 0-6 fins last year :sidelol: ), but as an OC, he's an absolute mastermind. Do you all remember just how good St. Louis was as an offense under him?????

We'd be crazy not to snatch him up. Of course, this assumes he could get along with Nick, and that's Nick's decision.

 

[Bumpus]

The more important thing... could he utilize RonnieB like he utilized Marshall Faulk? If anyone could fully maximize RonnieB's receiving ability... it would be Martz...

Under the control of Saban, he would run a balanced offense, making sure Ronnie gets his carries... but he would also be able to take full advantage of Ronnie's talent in the passing game...

Now, Martz probably aint coming here... but if he did, I wouldn't object...

Question...

If Saban were to control the new OC (whomever he may be) then why would we even need someone for the position? Why not simply let Saban do it? <sarcasm>

Now, I'll admit that I'm not sure who I would select at this point to replace Linehan ... but I'll tell you this much ... It sure as hell wouldn't be Martz.

Mike Martz is not a run first type of guy. He's also not a run second, third, or fourth type of guy (OK... maybe a run fourth type of guy )

He wants his offense to run occasionally, so that the D can't pin their ears back and rush the QB on every down. While that approach has merit for some teams, it doesn't hold water with the Dolphins. With our RB situation and our QB situation, well ... we should definately be a run first offense.