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A Jason Taylor Fan's Case Against Taylor

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Since Jason Taylor got drafted onto this team I've loved him both as a player and as a person. Obviously, trading Jason Taylor for a second round pick in retrospect was an excellent deal for us. We got a second round pick, the redskins got Taylor's worst season. Now, a year and ten wins later, we're offered the opportunity to get back one of the best players in this franchise's history. The circumstances seem like a dream come true. Now here's why we need to dismiss the opportunity.

At 35, Taylor continues to be one of the best role models in the game. He plays for a legitimate love of the sport and legitimately cares about the game and the people he plays with. The Dolphins have three young promising outside linebackers in Cameron Wake, Matt Roth, and Charlie Anderson (Save a fourth spot for a possible draftee). Taylor could come in and be an excellent mentor to these players, but for the most likely 3 million a year salary that he'd want (at the minimum), it's not worth it. Add this to the fact that Taylor will want to remain, as he once was, the star of this team and play 3 downs, and you have another reason. Taylor would stunt the growth of these young players by taking the playing time from them. Sure if Taylor were to come in with a 1 million dollar a year deal and be a back up, strictly mentoring these players, it would be an excellent situation. But even though he's 35, he thinks he's worth more than that. And maybe he is.

Obviously last year's injury is a concern on top of all this. Will taylor come back to be the sack master that he once was, or will he struggle this year, most likely his final? Of course if Taylor doesn't sign with the Dolphins, it will be the Patriots, at least that's what the sources are saying. At first glance this is a terrible thing: All of our favorite players keep going to our division nemesis, and now Jason! After all these years? The patriots continue to age at linebacker which obviously works to our benefit. Signing Taylor to the deal he expects he's worth will stray the Patriots away from draft a linebacker the pick before us, letting a great pass rusher possibly fall right to the Dolphins pick at 25, while the Patriots take a chance with a 35 year old injured, over-payed blitzer.

The reasons against bringing Taylor in because of his "childish behavior with the new regime" and his "bad relationship with Parcells" are illegitimate ones. He and Parcells have a fine relationship as does he with the rest of this team. Taylor wasn't with this team for the miraculous turn around. He knows what a 1-15 team felt like. He doesn't know what it felt like to go from zero to hero in just one year. Joey Porter knows that. Channing Crowder knows that. And that's why the Dolphins, have what they need as far as motivation goes for the new young linebackers. Jason perhaps could not provide what they can.
 
I really wanted to see Taylor back in a Fins' uniform until I read what Ireland said about him slowing down the progression of our younger guys. It would make more sense to pass on him then to bring him back, IMO.
 
I kind of got tired of JT after the whole DWTS/Hollywood thing and his lack of desire to participate in last year's offseason training. I appreciate everything he did for the team in the years prior, but I sort of stopped admiring him in the way that I used to.

Now, I look at his "new" signing in the same way I'd look at any other 35 year old has been, e.g. if we were considering signing Strahan. Could be good, could be bad - I'm sort of indifferent.
 
the reasons i want him back are because 1) i don't want him on the patriots..2) he's still better than anyone else we have besides porter at sacking the qb..3) ireland said he's a progress stopper but who better to learn from than j.t..4)he was hurt last year and the redskins played him out of position..5) depth..
 
Nice post, I agree with you, I'd be happy enough if we signed him on a smaller deal, but we need to build this team through our younger players.

Let's not also forget that we tried JT and JP outside before and we went 1-15. Neither of them is a great strongside OLB in my opinion, and they both are better suited to WOLB.
 
Bringing back old players is kinda like getting back with an ex wife...it usually won't work out the second time either,he could still be a good player but I think he would never play with this defense like in the past.Reminds me of when Csonka came back to the Fins after WFL & the Giants,nice to have him back but never was quite the same if he never left.
 
I like the fact the team is apparently going to wait until after the draft to finalize their decision on him. We definitely need pass rushers. Joey is not getting any younger either so we certainly need to keep developing our young players. If we don't get something in the draft, I could see the FO bringing in Jason for a reasonable contract if he is still available......
 
the reasons i want him back are because 1) i don't want him on the patriots..2) he's still better than anyone else we have besides porter at sacking the qb..3) ireland said he's a progress stopper but who better to learn from than j.t..4)he was hurt last year and the redskins played him out of position..5) depth..

Quite frankly, I believe 1-4 are illegitimate reasons. As I explained in my post, Patriots getting him could be a blessing in disguise. He isn't necessarily better than everyone we have, he's certainly more proven though. For all we know Cameron Wake could be amazing, as could Matt Roth (Side note, did you know if you change Roth to DE in Madden he's like a 94?), your third reason is correct, he's a great mentor as I said but I believe we have people that would be fine mentors. And your fourth reason I agree with but it's not a reason to bring him back. He was hurt last year, he could remain hurt. Depth is obviously a reason always to bring someone onto a team, especially someone like JT but not for 3 million a year. You sign Erik Walden for depth and for 300k a year or whatever he's making, not JT.
 
I loved the guy but it seems the bridge is burnt. It would make me sick to see him in a Patsy uni and have a great year though. This could backfire just like penny did for the Jests.
 
There are two reason i see us not jumping to re-sign him. First being his cap number, second being him taking PT from other players.

He has already said it isnt about money, with the pats making several signings i dont think they'll make a run at him. As far as PT i can see that, with us have Merling and Langford i dont TS benching either one. But i feel he is an upgrade over Roth.

I still feel strongly about at the right price he'd be a good pick up.
 
If we sign Taylor and draft Barwin,Sintim,Michael Johnson etc. then Roth becomes expendable and may very well get us a 3rd or 4th round pick.

For example: Cinci's leading sack guy had 4 sacks last year. Roth had 5 and didn't even play on a lot of obvious passing downs. Roth is also a very good End against the run; setting the edge well and standing up RB's and driving them back for losses. There may be some serious interest.

With a late third or early 4th the Dolphins could draft a very good OL guy or a backup SS that may end up playing a lot right away. I hope Bell stays healthy but.......

With Anderson,Walden,Wake,George and Moses, there is depth.
 
I don't even care that he was prancing with the stars, and I don't care about his rift with Parcells. It's all in the past. I simply don't want him because he is too old and not good enough anymore. If the FO feels we need to get another OL, it will probably be through the draft.
 
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