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A Possible Explanation to our Coordinator's Failures

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Here's a blurb from Alex Marvez's Dolphins preseason midseason report card

Plus, there are rumblings among players and others with inside knowledge of the team that Saban has too frequently placed his fingerprints all over the game plans designed by his staff.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dolgrade110706,0,5238571.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

Take it for what it's worth, but Marvez is pretty reliable when it comes to the Phins. With that said, do you think Saban's micromanaging his affecting his coordinator's performance? Personally, I think this is a valid point. This coaching staff is one of the highest paid in the league, and the coordinator's are respected for their craft, but this could be a hinderance to them. Any thoughts?
 
Media Hates Nick, and this guy obvioulsy is reaching, fair assessment overall but IMO saying he has his fingerprints all over the place, how is that bad would we rather have a coach that had no say?
 
Well as important as control appears to be to Saban, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine this being true IMO.
 
Doesn't make too much sense as the offense seems to be very different from the one last year. If Saban had a big hand in it you would think that there wouldn't be such a dramstic change in offense
 
mularkey is an idiot. saban realized this and tried damage control. unfortunately, nick is a defensive coach and it hasn't worked too well.
 
thecoordinator said:
mularkey is an idiot. saban realized this and tried damage control,
Whereas Romeo Crennel fired his OC and promoted the OL coach. Why not do that with Jason Garrett or Charlie Baggett if Mularkey is indeed so bad?

You're telling me that first he made Mularkey run another OC's (Linehan's) offense, and then he decided he was an idiot and started running the offense more himself?

Jeesh, if that's true I feel sorry for Mularkey.... :chuckle:
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
Doesn't make too much sense as the offense seems to be very different from the one last year. If Saban had a big hand in it you would think that there wouldn't be such a dramstic change in offense
I think what may be going on is that Mularkey feels handcuffed into running someone else's offense, and Saban is probably feeling like Mularkey isn't staying true to it enough.
 
Great article, great thread.

Something no one seems willing to address is the horrible, ridiculously poor play of the secondary. Regardless of how bad the offense is and how bad Mularkey is, the secondary has been just as bad.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume Saban had input on whom his new O-cooridnator might be. Why would you pick Mularkey? It's not like he's been great or even good with the Bills. Linehan was awesome, is there any reason you wouldn't pick someone in the same mold? Big mistake there.

That secondary is as poorly prepared game in and game out as any I've ever seen. The secondary is Sabans area of expertise. It's where he played and supposedly the area he's the best judge of talent in. Why doesn't anyone criticize him about his lack of preparation week in and week out.

Everyone makes mistakes and I still think Saban is smart/good enough to overcome them. But he needs to start being accountible and taking responsibility for how poorly he prepared his team.

Someone said he's not a media darling? I haven't heard one reporter ask him why he focuses on positives that didn't exist until the Chicago game. I haven't heard a reporter ask how the area of his team that he's the most directly responsible for has been so bad this season and what progress they made up until the Chicago game. He's not hated by the media, he's the most left alone coach I've ever seen.

How many times in a 1 and 6 season when you finished 6 and 0 the season before can you suggest there has been progress?

My biggest knock on the guy is he focuses on positives that don't exist and then diffuses responsiblity every time he's forced to talk about who's accountible or responsible. An answer like this shifts the blame away from himself. "No matter how I answer this question I can't win. So I'll assume full blame." That's basically saying, because I can't win no matter how I answer I'll just answer this way. Not because it's true but because he can't win no matter how he answers.

He's supposedly cut from the same mold as Bellichick. Bellichick doesn't say much to the media but when he does, he focuses more on the things that need work and his own shortcomings than he does on positives. If the game has no positives he's the first to admit it and first to claim responsibility.

It doesn't matter how poorly Saban prepares the team. If he takes responsibility he'll maintain the fans respect and the respect of his players. Unfortunately, the best preparatory coach on the team so far has been JT. It's not his job but he's taken over since Saban can't seem to handle it.
 
shouright said:
I think what may be going on is that Mularkey feels handcuffed into running someone else's offense, and Saban is probably feeling like Mularkey isn't staying true to it enough.

I think so too. Remember, Saban drafted RB @2, if his hand was in it,(the offense) I believe it would be in favor of getting miliage out of his high priced running back. Not passing the ball 60 times per game.
 
shouright said:
I think what may be going on is that Mularkey feels handcuffed into running someone else's offense, and Saban is probably feeling like Mularkey isn't staying true to it enough.

if he felt that way he wouldn't of taken the job.
 
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Ekinger said:
Great article, great thread.

Something no one seems willing to address is the horrible, ridiculously poor play of the secondary. Regardless of how bad the offense is and how bad Mularkey is, the secondary has been just as bad.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume Saban had input on whom his new O-cooridnator might be. Why would you pick Mularkey? It's not like he's been great or even good with the Bills. Linehan was awesome, is there any reason you wouldn't pick someone in the same mold? Big mistake there.

That secondary is as poorly prepared game in and game out as any I've ever seen. The secondary is Sabans area of expertise. It's where he played and supposedly the area he's the best judge of talent in. Why doesn't anyone criticize him about his lack of preparation week in and week out.

Everyone makes mistakes and I still think Saban is smart/good enough to overcome them. But he needs to start being accountible and taking responsibility for how poorly he prepared his team.

Someone said he's not a media darling? I haven't heard one reporter ask him why he focuses on positives that didn't exist until the Chicago game. I haven't heard a reporter ask how the area of his team that he's the most directly responsible for has been so bad this season and what progress they made up until the Chicago game. He's not hated by the media, he's the most left alone coach I've ever seen.

How many times in a 1 and 6 season when you finished 6 and 0 the season before can you suggest there has been progress?

My biggest knock on the guy is he focuses on positives that don't exist and then diffuses responsiblity every time he's forced to talk about who's accountible or responsible. An answer like this shifts the blame away from himself. "No matter how I answer this question I can't win. So I'll assume full blame." That's basically saying, because I can't win no matter how I answer I'll just answer this way. Not because it's true but because he can't win no matter how he answers.

He's supposedly cut from the same mold as Bellichick. Bellichick doesn't say much to the media but when he does, he focuses more on the things that need work and his own shortcomings than he does on positives. If the game has no positives he's the first to admit it and first to claim responsibility.

It doesn't matter how poorly Saban prepares the team. If he takes responsibility he'll maintain the fans respect and the respect of his players. Unfortunately, the best preparatory coach on the team so far has been JT. It's not his job but he's taken over since Saban can't seem to handle it.

I would agree the secondary has played poorly at times, I strongly disagree they are not prepared. So I must ask you to explain exactly how is it you see them as unprepared? Or are you just another Saban-basher saying whatever fits your agenda?
 
Ekinger said:
Great article, great thread.

Something no one seems willing to address is the horrible, ridiculously poor play of the secondary. Regardless of how bad the offense is and how bad Mularkey is, the secondary has been just as bad.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume Saban had input on whom his new O-cooridnator might be. Why would you pick Mularkey? It's not like he's been great or even good with the Bills. Linehan was awesome, is there any reason you wouldn't pick someone in the same mold? Big mistake there.

That secondary is as poorly prepared game in and game out as any I've ever seen. The secondary is Sabans area of expertise. It's where he played and supposedly the area he's the best judge of talent in. Why doesn't anyone criticize him about his lack of preparation week in and week out.

Everyone makes mistakes and I still think Saban is smart/good enough to overcome them. But he needs to start being accountible and taking responsibility for how poorly he prepared his team.

Someone said he's not a media darling? I haven't heard one reporter ask him why he focuses on positives that didn't exist until the Chicago game. I haven't heard a reporter ask how the area of his team that he's the most directly responsible for has been so bad this season and what progress they made up until the Chicago game. He's not hated by the media, he's the most left alone coach I've ever seen.

How many times in a 1 and 6 season when you finished 6 and 0 the season before can you suggest there has been progress?

My biggest knock on the guy is he focuses on positives that don't exist and then diffuses responsiblity every time he's forced to talk about who's accountible or responsible. An answer like this shifts the blame away from himself. "No matter how I answer this question I can't win. So I'll assume full blame." That's basically saying, because I can't win no matter how I answer I'll just answer this way. Not because it's true but because he can't win no matter how he answers.
He's supposedly cut from the same mold as Bellichick. Bellichick doesn't say much to the media but when he does, he focuses more on the things that need work and his own shortcomings than he does on positives. If the game has no positives he's the first to admit it and first to claim responsibility.

It doesn't matter how poorly Saban prepares the team. If he takes responsibility he'll maintain the fans respect and the respect of his players. Unfortunately, the best preparatory coach on the team so far has been JT. It's not his job but he's taken over since Saban can't seem to handle it.

To understand what Nick Saban is about, is to have a little knowledge of the "process" you hear him speak of.

It is not something that can be explained in a "Presser" so he doesn't even try.

For a small glimpse at what he is attempting to instill into the Miami Dolphins Organization including players, I link you to this.

www.deming.org/theman/teachings.html

I had over ten years exposer to TQM before I retired. Knowledge is power. A familiarity with the process opens your ears to many buzzwords you hear from Nick. I understand what he is doing. He will be successful beyond our wildest dreams.
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
if he felt that way he wouldn't of taken the job.
Or maybe he didn't feel that way then and he feels that way now?
 
themole said:
To understand what Nick Saban is about, is to have a little knowledge of the "process" you hear him speak of.

It is not something that can be explained in a "Presser" so he doesn't even try.

For a small glimpse at what he is attempting to instill into the Miami Dolphins Organization including players, I link you to this.

www.deming.org/theman/teachings.html

I had over ten years exposer to TQM before I retired. Knowledge is power. A familiarity with the process opens your ears to many buzzwords you hear from Nick. I understand what he is doing. He will be successful beyond our wildest dreams.
You gotta help me out with this one. Please help me understand how Saban's approach relates to the one in the link. You have my interest.
 
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