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What if we end up in a three way tie with the Chiefs and the Jags (assuming that we beat the Jags head-to-head).

The question I have is would we be the winner of the tiebreak since we beat them both head-to-head, or with the case of a three-way tie, is there a different method than first looking at head-to-head?
 
We would beat them both out if we beat them head to head.
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
Our playoff hopes took a big blow tonight with the Kansas City win.
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Luckily though, the Chiefs still play the Browns, Ravens, Chargers, Raiders, and Jaguars. They can still lose 2 of those games in my opinion. The Broncos would have to lose 3 more because of their superior AFC Conference record. I agree though, I was hoping the Chiefs would lose tonight. But there's still good hope AS LONG AS WE KEEP WINNING ofcourse!!!
 
JayCee said:
Luckily though, the Chiefs still play the Browns, Ravens, Chargers, Raiders, and Jaguars. They can still lose 2 of those games in my opinion. The Broncos would have to lose 3 more because of their superior AFC Conference record. I agree though, I was hoping the Chiefs would lose tonight. But there's still good hope AS LONG AS WE KEEP WINNING ofcourse!!!
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I still believe that if we win out we will be there simply because of the tiebreakers we will get over KC and Jax. I was hoping we would have some leway and have the safety of maybe losing a game. Losing Ronnie Brown also hurts, I hope he can go next week.
 
killswitch said:
What if we end up in a three way tie with the Chiefs and the Jags (assuming that we beat the Jags head-to-head).

The question I have is would we be the winner of the tiebreak since we beat them both head-to-head, or with the case of a three-way tie, is there a different method than first looking at head-to-head?
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the head to head will count because the Chiefs and Jags play each other (last game of the year, at KC) however if a team we didnt play or a team one of them didnt play are tied with us the HTH wont matter and it will be off Conference record which we wont have a chance to win. Tie, maybe.
if we are tied in Conference records then it will go to Strength of victory which, if we win out will be great, if it makest it that far it most likely will be settled there and we would most definatly win that.:D
 
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.


Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the three Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss.


When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2, and repeated a third time, if necessary, to identify the third Wild Card. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
 
JayCee said:
Luckily though, the Chiefs still play the Browns, Ravens, Chargers, Raiders, and Jaguars. They can still lose 2 of those games in my opinion. The Broncos would have to lose 3 more because of their superior AFC Conference record. I agree though, I was hoping the Chiefs would lose tonight. But there's still good hope AS LONG AS WE KEEP WINNING ofcourse!!!
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if Denver loses to San Diego and Cinci, and we win out we would have them in a tie breaker. with the same conference record and better comon game record. their conference record would be 7-5 ours would be 7-5
 
13finfan4ever said:
if Denver loses to San Diego and Cinci, and we win out we would have them in a tie breaker. with the same conference record and better comon game record. their conference record would be 7-5 ours would be 7-5
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Crazy, Denver went from being 7-2 to possibly missing out on the playoffs. They also play Seattle and San Fransisco. I have to believe they will lose one of those.
 
So if we are tied in record with KC and Jacksonville at the end of the season and we've beaten both KC and Jacksonville, we're in. If we lose to Jacksonville and they lose to KC it goes to conference wins which will be iffy.

If we are tied with Denver and Jacksonville at the end of the season we have no prayer unless we beat Jax and even then Denver will most likely beat us in a three way with their conference record which can't be any worse than 7-5 and ours won't be any better than 7-5. We have literally no shot if we wind up tied with Denver and Jacksonville at the end of the season. Let's pray if it's a 3 way it's with Jacks and KC or that it's only a 2 way with KC or Jacksonville. We don't want to have the same record as Denver.
 
13finfan4ever said:
if Denver loses to San Diego and Cinci, and we win out we would have them in a tie breaker. with the same conference record and better comon game record. their conference record would be 7-5 ours would be 7-5
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I see what you mean, but how would we win out the common game record exactly?

This is the factor as far as common games go:

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

I'm a little confused on how that would work?
 
13finfan4ever said:
if Denver loses to San Diego and Cinci, and we win out we would have them in a tie breaker. with the same conference record and better comon game record. their conference record would be 7-5 ours would be 7-5
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No we wouldn't we'd both be 3-2 in common games. It would then go to strength of victory which we may actually have a good shot at winning. If we are tied in strength of victory it goes to strength of schedule which we'll definitely lose because our schedule had to be one of the easiest in the NFL. Denver had to play Indy the Pats, San Diego 2x, KC 2x and Baltimore.
 
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