No name calling guys. Talk about the thread subject not each other
How?
It's like you don't want to give any credit until you're 100% sure he's Elite. Why though?
If you watched what he did Thursday, and you didn't once think, 'oh we might have something here', then I just can't imagine your thought process.
I'm not saying you should be on the hype train or anything, but we're seeing something we rarely see and you're dismissing it because you need to see more. I don't get what seeing more has to do with what you've already seen. Was it good or not? Did it give you hope for his future or not?
It's like you don't want to give any credit until you're 100% sure he's Elite. Why though?
If you watched what he did Thursday, and you didn't once think, 'oh we might have something here', then I just can't imagine your thought process.
I'm not saying you should be on the hype train or anything, but we're seeing something we rarely see and you're dismissing it because you need to see more. I don't get what seeing more has to do with what you've already seen. Was it good or not? Did it give you hope for his future or not?
I've watched countless preseason stars. What happens during this time means nothing come September. That's all I mean by that.
He's got the body, I'm ****ing hoping he works out, but I don't get high or low during August.
Yeah, I couldn't believe he wasn't drafted. Sometimes what happens in the draft is a complete mystery.Good to see so many players on that list. Williams is exciting, but it's also nice to see a couple of defensive ends playing well. I know Ledbetter was expected to be drafted.
None.
This team is lacking at key spots and it's going to impact the W/L record.
Fair enough. But ya know, I think the vast majority of us participating on this board kinda know
preseason doesn't count. But to deny the "upside" when [any one player] impresses throughout OTAs
and TC and then in a preseason game -- is just silly.
Bottom line -- it's a far better indicator that [any one player] is having an excellent camp etc. than the
same player showing nothing! It makes a difference (in a multitude of ways) to demonstrate you belong
in the NFL during this time frame than to fall on your face.
I'd say the ODDS are overwhelmingly better for [any one player] who continually impresses during OTAs
TC and preseason to actually have the chops to get it done in the season (as opposed to someone who
shows the lack thereof).
So like it or not, it does matter. And it also provides a degree of indication -- tho we realize it's NOT a guarantee.
Honestly, it's a dishonest conversation being lodged at P.Williams by some. By all account he's dominated at every level including college and has continued all the way through his 1st preseason game.
Enough so, that they have an entire story on the guy on NFL.com. Honestly, when was the last time that happened? Especially for an undrafted rookie? Clearly, that's not normal.
Yet, we have people saying when he does it against "R.Sherman or Ramsey etc" that's when i'll give him more credit...Ridiculous!
Because I need to see more. He's got the talent and he put it on display with ease, but one PREseason game doesn't impress me. If it continues through preseason then of course this kid will be a surprise, but not at this moment in time.
The Defensive End situation is dire and I saw that in in March. Flores better be the best scheme developer in the NFL to produce even consistent pressures.
That's why nothing is a surprise for me, everything I thought that would be weak appears it may be weak. I'm hoping Rosen becomes Farve and Williams becomes Sterling Sharpe, but I'm not counting on it. Miami wasn't going to he good this year, I don't see many wins on the table this season. 3-13 is a very real possibility.