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Adam Beasley: Flores Gaining Momentum

LOLPhins said:
What a lame comeback. Our future team leader? Supported? Are you serious with this? Minkah may very well be the future team leader, but what does that ultimately have to do with anything? Are you suggesting he is somehow going to come undone and be ruined if the team sucks for the next year or two? Pray tell how finishing 7-9 or 8-8 would have a vastly different impact on him going forward. No player wants to lose but ffs, he'd be just fine.

The fact that you are openly advocating for the team to win a few more meaningless games even though not doing so could theoretically enable them to be better positioned for long term sustained success simply because Minkah Fitzpatrick "doesn't deserve to be on a 2/3 win team" is downright laughable. Wtf does that even mean, anyway? Do Laremy Tunsil, Cam Wake, Matt Haack or anyone else somehow "deserve" to win 2/3 games more? Your "logic" is puzzling.
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you are pro-tank? good for you

I will take culture over draft position all, day, long
 
BigNastyFish said:
Well, the entire NFL is kinda nepotistic and personally I don't have an issue with Grier relying on resources etc. he is familiar with. Bottom line, you're going to use your contacts and "channel" in a situation like this -- just have to hope those are "good."

Beyond that -- I don't think we have a clue as to the entire candidate list Grier has put together and who he's been in some degree of communication with besides the obvious ones.

We gotta let the process play out and evaluate the results and methods down the line.
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Agree with this, lots of good points in this post including the fact that it's not necessarily a bad thing that Grier is relying on the known....as a fan I'm pretty much always optimistic especially since we're about to hire an entire new staff gotta give them a legitimate chance
 
ckparrothead said:
Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald seems very, very sure that Flores is the front runner, that both Chris Grier and Steve Ross want him, and to hear it from him you wonder they don't just announce tomorrow that he's the guy they're hiring.

The problem is, there ARE conflicting reports going on.

My source was, and is (reiterated) pretty adamant Flores's interview wasn't all that impressive. They said seems like a good guy, but interview didn't knock anyone's socks off. Beasley's source definitely disagrees with that.

Meanwhile Las Vegas is handicapping John Harbaugh (+250) and Kris Richard (+300) as the favorites, with Brian Flores (+1000) and Eric Bieniemy (+1000) at the very BACK of the pack.

https://www.betdsi.eu/sportsbook-betting/nfl-odds/nfl-props/

Which, by the way, fits EXACTLY what I continue to hear from national media sources, who keep telling me that everything they hear points toward Richard, but that they also know Miami continue to pick at the Harbaugh Gordian knot (which I personally don't believe they'll ever solve, because I will continue to believe John Harbaugh is just using Steve Ross).

Dallas beat writers have been sniffing this out and they believe Kris Richard is going to Miami.

And we (3YPC) know, and are to my knowledge the only ones to reveal this, that Kris Richard himself is expecting to schedule a 2nd interview with the Dolphins, playoff schedule permitting.

I honestly don't know what to believe. Beasley's a pro. I trust him. But there's definitely conflict here.
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Who was in these meetings? I thought it was only Grier and Ross. Were others in the interviews as well? I’m just wondering how the details are leaking. I suppose Grier meets with others to discuss the candidates as well, but were there other people as part of the interview process?
 
ckparrothead said:
Luckily we have the connections that we were able to go straight to the horse's mouth on why Kris Richard and Pete Carroll split up in Seattle. It was a HUGE sticking point for me, because what you don't know CAN hurt you.

I wanted to know why Carroll would fire a guy that had been with him the longest of any staff member, back to 2008 with USC. I also approached his time in Dallas extremely skeptically because he's officially the DB Coach there and I wanted to know why the hell isn't he a DC anywhere? If he's so good?

Turns out there were answers to these questions. Not all of them are ones I can reveal. But I mean, the same way we were able to reveal before anyone else that Kris Richard is expecting to schedule a 2nd interview with Miami, is the same way I know the answers to these questions.

And I'm fully on board now. I approached him skeptically. He might have been my least favorite candidate. I did the research. And now he's my favorite. Legit favorite.
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Any hints? Did he blast Carroll for not being aggressive?
 
I'm not sold on any of them yet, but I think Beiniemy may be the one with the most football experience,
 
lbmclean_nocal said:
you are pro-tank? good for you

I will take culture over draft position all, day, long
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How's that been working out for you the past quarter century?

The Dolphins are officially the example that will be used to show why meaningless wins are meaningless. 25 years of 8-8. That's enough sample size to conclude plenty of things, chief among them being mediocre begets mediocre and culture is nothing but a buzz word incorrectly used by people who don't know how to interpret facts or identify patterns.
 
BobDole said:
How's that been working out for you the past quarter century?

The Dolphins are officially the example that will be used to show why meaningless wins are meaningless. 25 years of 8-8. That's enough sample size to conclude plenty of things, chief among them being mediocre begets mediocre and culture is nothing but a buzz word incorrectly used by people who don't know how to interpret facts or identify patterns.
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My favorite is the people that insist that it’s critical to win meaningless games at the end of the season because the winning will “carry over” into next year and that’s more important than draft positioning. :wall

Now the fact is that the Dolphins will likely draft poorly from any position— and history shows that they’re willing and able to flub even the first or second pick of the draft— but it still doesn’t validate that ridiculous theory.
 
BobDole said:
How's that been working out for you the past quarter century?

The Dolphins are officially the example that will be used to show why meaningless wins are meaningless. 25 years of 8-8. That's enough sample size to conclude plenty of things, chief among them being mediocre begets mediocre and culture is nothing but a buzz word incorrectly used by people who don't know how to interpret facts or identify patterns.
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Well the Dolphins have had the 1st and second pick in the last 15 years so tanking doesn’t seem to work.
 
SkapePhin said:
Who was in these meetings? I thought it was only Grier and Ross. Were others in the interviews as well? I’m just wondering how the details are leaking. I suppose Grier meets with others to discuss the candidates as well, but were there other people as part of the interview process?
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Yes there are others involved in these trips to meet and interview the candidates. I know of at least two others I won't name because it might then point a finger directly at the contradiction between Beasley's source saying Grier is smitten with Flores and my own source saying we wasn't that impressive.
 
CoryMatthews said:
Well the Dolphins have had the 1st and second pick in the last 15 years so tanking doesn’t seem to work.
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The post above yours covered it. Nothing is guaranteed but this team needs all the help it can get.

Plus timing is everything. Gotta pick the right year to tank and from my view the next two seasons are the time to do it. It's all about the QB and there are good ones on the horizon. Get one.
 
CoryMatthews said:
Well the Dolphins have had the 1st and second pick in the last 15 years so tanking doesn’t seem to work.
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When I was a kid during the Marino years I’d always lament that the Dolphins would be drafting in the 20s and had no shot at the talent at the top of the draft. Then starting with the 2005 draft, they’ve got the #2 pick and the #1 pick within a span of four years. And what do they have to show for it: a good, but not great, running back and a great offensive tackle who couldn’t stay healthy enough to play. Who needs a quarterback in the modern NFL?

Your 21st century Dolphins: drafting as if it’s 1971.
 
CoryMatthews said:
Well the Dolphins have had the 1st and second pick in the last 15 years so tanking doesn’t seem to work.
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That’s because we have had morons running the team. How many future HoF QBs have we passed up? Hell, even passed up Brees twice.
 
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