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CChambers7284 said:
My friend (a jets fan) sent me this and he even doesnt agree w/ what this site said

QB:
1. Tom Brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. AJ Feelery/Gus Ferotte
4. JP Losman

RB:
1. Curtis Martin
2. Corey Dillon
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Jamar Martin

WR (Starting tandem):
1. Eric Moulds/Lee Evans
2. Lavernaus Coles/Justin McCareins
3. David Givens/Deion Branch
4. Chris Chambers/Marty Booker:confused:

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Damion McIntosh
4. Mike Gandy

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Seth McKinney

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Stephen Neal
4. Rex Hadnot

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Richard Seymour
2. Jason Taylor
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Shaun Ellis
2. Kevin Carter
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
2. Vince Wilfork
3. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree
4. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor:confused:

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Eric Barton
4. Junior Seau:confused:

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Victor Hobson
3. Jeff Posey
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. London Fletcher
2. Jonathan Vilma
3. Zach Thomas:confused:
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB (Top 4):
1. Tyrone Poole/Duane Starks/Asante Samuel/Randall Gay
2. Nate Clements/Terrence McGee/Kevin Thomas/Jabari Greer
3. David Barrett/Donnie Abraham/Derrick Strait/Justin Miller
4. Sam Madison/Reggie Howard/Mario Edwrads/Travis Daniels

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

PK:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr





Okay Thomas as the 3rd MLb in the AFC East is total garabge.

IDK how they made these ratings because if it was last years stats Thomas should be #1 in football.

Mine would look like this Based on Expactations
QB:
1. Tom Brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. AJ Feelery/Gus Ferotte
4. JP Losman

RB:
1. Corey Dillon
2. Curtis Martin(think he will finally break down)
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Heath Evans

WR:
1. Fins
2. Bills
3. Pats
4. Jets

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT OLINE
LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Mike Gandy
4. Damion McIntosh

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Rex Hadnot

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Stephen Neal
4. Vernon Carey

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Jason Taylor
2. Richard Seymour
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Kevin Carter
2. Shaun Ellis
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
2. Vince Wilfork
3. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree
4. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Eric Barton
4. Junior Seau

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Victor Hobson
3. Jeff Posey
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. Zach Thomas
2. Jon Vilma
3. London Fletcher
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB (Top 4):
1. Bills
2. Fins
3. Pats
4. Jets

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

PK:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr
 
Do people really think the Bills corner backs are that good? I talk to alot of Bills fans and they'll even tell ya that Terrence McGee is a bad cornerback but a great special teams player.
 
Finfan86 said:
Mine would look like this Based on Expactations
QB:
1. Tom Brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. AJ Feelery/Gus Ferotte
4. JP Losman

RB:
1. Corey Dillon
2. Curtis Martin(think he will finally break down)
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Heath Evans

WR:
1. Fins
2. Bills
3. Pats
4. Jets

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT OLINE
LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Mike Gandy
4. Damion McIntosh

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Rex Hadnot

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Stephen Neal
4. Vernon Carey

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Jason Taylor
2. Richard Seymour
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Kevin Carter
2. Shaun Ellis
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
2. Vince Wilfork
3. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree
4. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Eric Barton
4. Junior Seau

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Victor Hobson
3. Jeff Posey
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. Zach Thomas
2. Jon Vilma
3. London Fletcher
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB (Top 4):
1. Bills
2. Fins
3. Pats
4. Jets

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

PK:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr

I'd say that's a pretty accurate list.
 
CChambers7284 said:
My friend (a jets fan) sent me this and he even doesnt agree w/ what this site said

QB:
1. Tom Brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. AJ Feelery/Gus Ferotte
4. JP Losman

RB:
1. Curtis Martin
2. Corey Dillon
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Jamar Martin

WR (Starting tandem):
1. Eric Moulds/Lee Evans
2. Lavernaus Coles/Justin McCareins
3. David Givens/Deion Branch
4. Chris Chambers/Marty Booker:confused:

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Damion McIntosh
4. Mike Gandy

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Seth McKinney

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Stephen Neal
4. Rex Hadnot

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Richard Seymour
2. Jason Taylor
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Shaun Ellis
2. Kevin Carter
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
2. Vince Wilfork
3. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree
4. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor:confused:

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Eric Barton
4. Junior Seau:confused:

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Victor Hobson
3. Jeff Posey
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. London Fletcher
2. Jonathan Vilma
3. Zach Thomas:confused:
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB (Top 4):
1. Tyrone Poole/Duane Starks/Asante Samuel/Randall Gay
2. Nate Clements/Terrence McGee/Kevin Thomas/Jabari Greer
3. David Barrett/Donnie Abraham/Derrick Strait/Justin Miller
4. Sam Madison/Reggie Howard/Mario Edwrads/Travis Daniels

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

PK:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr





Okay Thomas as the 3rd MLb in the AFC East is total garabge.

IDK how they made these ratings because if it was last years stats Thomas should be #1 in football.
I love Nugent being a Buckeye fan but lets let him kick a ball in the NFL before ranking him ahead of another NFL kicker. JT as the second best is garbage too
 
djfresh47 said:
Do people really think the Bills corner backs are that good? I talk to alot of Bills fans and they'll even tell ya that Terrence McGee is a bad cornerback but a great special teams player.


Terrence McGee a bad cornerback? He is not Nate Clements but he has tons of athletic ability and has already turned into a very solid starter. Many Bills fans think this is the year where he could turn into a star on D as well as special teams where he made the Pro-Bowl last year.

Kevin Thomas and Jabari Greer can run and cover. Our 5th round pick Eric King was the most impressive rookie after Parrish in our mini-camps so far. He has great speed and was even given some time with the first unit in dime packages.

I would rate the Bills #1 for talent at corner. There is a reason why the Bills pass D allowed the 3rd fewest yards per game and the least amount of yards per attempt DESPITE having Aaron Schobel and Chris Kelsay playing DE who most of you are saying are the worst DE's in the AFC East.
 
That is one terrible lookin list there. Here is my list of best to worst:

QB:
1. Tom brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. JP Losman
4. AJ Feeley/Gus Ferrote

RB:
1. Corey Dillion
2. Curtis Martin
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Jamar Martin

WR:
1. Eric Moulds/Lee Evans
2. Deion Branch/David Givens
3. Chris Chambers/Marty Booker
4. Lavernaus Coles/Justin McCareins

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Mike Gandy
4. Damien McIntosh/Vernon Carey

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Seth McKinney

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Rex Hadnot
4. Stephen Neal

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Jason Taylor
2. Richard Seymour
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Shaun Ellis
2. Kevin Carter
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Vince Wilfork
2. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
3. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor
4. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Junior Seau
4. Eric Barton

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Jeff Posey
3. Victor Hobson
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. Zach Thomas
2. London Fletcher
3. Jonathan Vilma
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB:
1. Tyrone Poole/Duane Starks/Asante Samuel/Randall Gay
2. David Barrett/Donnie Abraham/Derrick Strait/Justin Miller
3. Sam Madison/Reggie Howard/Mario Edwrads/Travis Daniels
4. Nate Clements/Terrence McGee/Kevin Thomas/Jabari Greer

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

K:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr
 
CChambers7284 said:
My friend (a jets fan) sent me this and he even doesnt agree w/ what this site said

QB:
1. Tom Brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. AJ Feelery/Gus Ferotte
4. JP Losman

RB:
1. Curtis Martin
2. Corey Dillon
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Jamar Martin

WR (Starting tandem):
1. Eric Moulds/Lee Evans
2. Lavernaus Coles/Justin McCareins
3. David Givens/Deion Branch
4. Chris Chambers/Marty Booker:confused:

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Damion McIntosh
4. Mike Gandy

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Seth McKinney

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Stephen Neal
4. Rex Hadnot

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Richard Seymour
2. Jason Taylor
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Shaun Ellis
2. Kevin Carter
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
2. Vince Wilfork
3. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree
4. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor:confused:

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Eric Barton
4. Junior Seau:confused:

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Victor Hobson
3. Jeff Posey
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. London Fletcher
2. Jonathan Vilma
3. Zach Thomas:confused:
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB (Top 4):
1. Tyrone Poole/Duane Starks/Asante Samuel/Randall Gay
2. Nate Clements/Terrence McGee/Kevin Thomas/Jabari Greer
3. David Barrett/Donnie Abraham/Derrick Strait/Justin Miller
4. Sam Madison/Reggie Howard/Mario Edwrads/Travis Daniels

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

PK:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr





Okay Thomas as the 3rd MLb in the AFC East is total garabge.

IDK how they made these ratings because if it was last years stats Thomas should be #1 in football.
Those don't seem far fetched
 
Overall it was pretty right on. Nothing huge and glaring but even I might not put Curtis as #1.

BZ
 
McGahee is better than Dillon. Phindude, you put the only pro bowl corner of the entire list at 4? There's no question Buffalo should be number 1 in that area. Also, Zazh Thomas and London Fletcher is a matter of debate.
 
Wagon Circler said:
McGahee is better than Dillon. Phindude, you put the only pro bowl corner of the entire list at 4? There's no question Buffalo should be number 1 in that area. Also, Zazh Thomas and London Fletcher is a matter of debate.


I didnt rate the CB's just because of one player. I rate them as a whole. McGahee could be better then Dillion, but right now Dillion is better.
 
Wagon Circler said:
Well as a whole the Buffalo cb's are still a better unit than anyone else in he AFCE.
I would have to completely disagree with that. While NEw England doesn't have probowl corners they definitely are the best as a group. Very underrated because of the overall play of the entire defense but they shut down peytons passing game for two straight years when it mattered most.
 
PhinDude88 said:
That is one terrible lookin list there. Here is my list of best to worst:

QB:
1. Tom brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. JP Losman
4. AJ Feeley/Gus Ferrote

RB:
1. Corey Dillion
2. Curtis Martin
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Jamar Martin

WR:
1. Eric Moulds/Lee Evans
2. Deion Branch/David Givens
3. Chris Chambers/Marty Booker
4. Lavernaus Coles/Justin McCareins

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Mike Gandy
4. Damien McIntosh/Vernon Carey

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Seth McKinney

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Rex Hadnot
4. Stephen Neal

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Jason Taylor
2. Richard Seymour
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Shaun Ellis
2. Kevin Carter
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Vince Wilfork
2. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
3. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor
4. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Junior Seau
4. Eric Barton

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Jeff Posey
3. Victor Hobson
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. Zach Thomas
2. London Fletcher
3. Jonathan Vilma
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB:
1. Tyrone Poole/Duane Starks/Asante Samuel/Randall Gay
2. David Barrett/Donnie Abraham/Derrick Strait/Justin Miller
3. Sam Madison/Reggie Howard/Mario Edwrads/Travis Daniels
4. Nate Clements/Terrence McGee/Kevin Thomas/Jabari Greer

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

K:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr

Pretty good list, except the CB's
 
PhinDude88 said:
That is one terrible lookin list there. Here is my list of best to worst:

QB:
1. Tom brady
2. Chad Pennington
3. JP Losman
4. AJ Feeley/Gus Ferrote

RB:
1. Corey Dillion
2. Curtis Martin
3. Willis McGahee
4. Ronnie Brown

FB:
1. Jerald Sowell
2. Damion Shelton
3. Patrick Pass
4. Jamar Martin

WR:
1. Eric Moulds/Lee Evans
2. Deion Branch/David Givens
3. Chris Chambers/Marty Booker
4. Lavernaus Coles/Justin McCareins

TE:
1. Randy McMichael
2. Daniel Graham
3. Doug Jolley
4. Mark Campbell

LT:
1. Matt Light
2. Jason Fabini
3. Mike Gandy
4. Damien McIntosh/Vernon Carey

LG:
1. Pete Kendall
2. Jeno James
3. Bennie Anderson
4. Russ Hochenstein

C:
1. Kevin Mawae
2. Dan Koppen
3. Trey Teague
4. Seth McKinney

RG:
1. Chris Villarrial
2. Brandon Moore
3. Rex Hadnot
4. Stephen Neal

RT:
1. Mike Williams
2. Stockar McDougle
3. Brandon Gorin
4. Adrian Jones

RE:
1. Jason Taylor
2. Richard Seymour
3. John Abraham
4. Aaron Schobel

LE:
1. Shaun Ellis
2. Kevin Carter
3. Ty Warren
4. Chris Kelsay

DT:
1. Vince Wilfork
2. Sam Adams/Ron Edwards
3. Larry Chester/Keith Traylor
4. Dewayne Robertson/Lance Legree

WSLB:
1. Takeo Spikes
2. Mike Vrabel
3. Junior Seau
4. Eric Barton

SSLB:
1. Willie McGinest
2. Jeff Posey
3. Victor Hobson
4. Donnie Spragan

MLB:
1. Zach Thomas
2. London Fletcher
3. Jonathan Vilma
4. Ted Johnson/Chad Brown

CB:
1. Tyrone Poole/Duane Starks/Asante Samuel/Randall Gay
2. David Barrett/Donnie Abraham/Derrick Strait/Justin Miller
3. Sam Madison/Reggie Howard/Mario Edwrads/Travis Daniels
4. Nate Clements/Terrence McGee/Kevin Thomas/Jabari Greer

FS:
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Erik Coleman
3. Troy Vincent
4. Traveras Tillman

SS:
1. Rodney Harrison
2. Lawyer Milloy
3. Tebucky Jones
4. John McGraw

K:
1. Adam Vinatieri
2. Olindo Mare
3. Mike Nugent
4. Ryan Lindell

P:
1. Brian Moorman
2. Matt Turk
3. Josh Miller
4. Micah Knorr
I agree with everything except CB
1. Pats
2. Bills
3. Jets
4. Phins
 
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