All Signs Pointing Toward John Beck as the Future

[ckparrothead]

This comes to you from Keith Box, otherwise known as KB21. He's hung up at the moment so I am putting this up for him.

With the Pete Carmichael Jr. news, I think all signs are pointing towards John Beck being very much in the team's plans for the future.

When you look at Pete Carmichael's history, offensive influences, and the quarterbacks he has worked with in the past, you can easily draw a conclusion that this hiring is to benefit John Beck.

Pete's offensive influences from a coaching stand point are Sean Payton's offensive system, Cam Cameron's offensive system, and Gary Crowton's offensive system from his college days as Louisiana Tech's quarterbacks coach when Gary was the offensive coordinator and the head coach from 1995-1998.

The quarterback that John Beck is most often compared to? Drew Brees, who plays for Carmichael and Payton in New Orleans. Pete Carmichael has been with Drew Brees since 2002. I think part of the thought process with hiring Pete Carmichael Jr is the idea that he can bring a similar system as the one in New Orleans that has made Drew Brees so successful over the past two years to Miami. Considering that Beck and Brees are very similar, the coaching staff and management possibly think that this system will allow John Beck to take off.

I mentioned that Pete coached with Gary Crowton at Louisiana Tech. The coach at BYU that recruited John Beck to BYU was Gary Crowton. John spent his first two seasons at BYU playing in Gary's offense.

Then you take into account the Cam Cameron influence. Cam coached with Pete in San Diego and wanted him in Miami as the OC. I think if Pete had accepted the job, he would have been completely on board with the idea that John Beck is the future of the team at the quarterback position.

I really believe that when you take everything into account, all the signs are pointing towards John Beck being this team's starting quarterback now and in the near future. I think Pete Carmichael Jr is being hired not only because Tony Sparano is familiar with him, but also because he can build a system around John Beck. I think we are going to see a multiple offensive system in Miami that has a lot of influences from three different systems, and I think John Beck is going to be the focal point of that system much like Drew Brees is in New Orleans.

I for one completely agree with Keith. The one thing I'll add, which I'm sure he meant to say but probably just forgot, is that to support this point, recently when Jeff Ireland spoke to MiamiDolphins.com from the Senior Bowl he specifically mentioned that the only two players on roster that he has spoken to individually are Jason Taylor and John Beck. And, the way he said Beck, he just used his first name, as if it were very obvious why he would speak to him directly (but not Zach Thomas?).

I think Keith has a great point. John Beck and Drew Brees are very similar creatures. Pete Carmichael, Jr. has been involved with Brees for a long time now. Beck was also hand-picked by Cam Cameron, and now we are bringing on board Carmichael, who tutored under Cameron in San Diego. Then, to really touch it off, there's the Gary Crowton connection which I believe is very significant.

 

[Phinsfan210]

Im real happy about the Carmichael hiring, or hopefully hes getting hired. I like Beck and I think he will be a very good QB in this league for years to come.

 

[Dolfan1000]

Well said, CK and KB, and I agree. Johnny was a 2nd round pick. No way we use another day one pick on a QB when the team has so many other needs.

Noted the same thing you did about Ireland.

 

[unluckyluciano]

Stupid question ck and kb whomever can answer, if the team goes away from the carmichael hiring, then what conclusion are we to draw about the qb situation from that?

 

[tay0365]

Sounds good to me, there is no way we should give up on Beck (with all that happened this year) this early.

 

[padre31]

To play Devil's Advocate a bit here.

The coaching hires could only mean that the new employees are capable of training a Qb to fit into the Erhardt/Perkins/Coryel polyglot.

That doesn't mean that Beck will be that Qb, only that he will have a crack at being the Qb.

 

[Bofin]

personally i think thats a good thing. i like john beck, he seems willing to work hard to improve and i think he has great tools. i'd like to see him a little heavier/stronger next season and see what he can do. i hope he can get his hands on an offenseve playbook soon, like today. i liked his last game performance, and his reads were good throughout, he threw the ball where it should have gone most of the time. he also needs a lot of work on fundementals and game management. i'm pulling for the kid and think he'll work hard to improve this off season

 

[KippyIA1354]

No More Lemons!!!

Great points! I think John Beck has all the intangibles to be a solid quarterback in this league. He was thrown to the wolves in some caeses this past year and I blame Cameron for his short comings.The only thing I know is I have seen ENOUGH of Cleo Lemon!!!!

 

[Bonedoc7777]

still need to add one QB with the draft to have young depth and competition, booty or flacco would be nice

 

[padre31]

still need to add one QB with the draft to have young depth and competition, booty or flacco would be nice

Heck, even Paul Smith or a UDFA Qb.

Some folks think that we will pick up the Saints back up Qb Jamie Martin to play second fiddle.

 

[ckparrothead]

There may be more than one QB added to the mix, depending on the Trent Green medical clearance.

 

[Ryan1973]

To play Devil's Advocate a bit here.

The coaching hires could only mean that the new employees are capable of training a Qb to fit into the Erhardt/Perkins/Coryel polyglot.

That doesn't mean that Beck will be that Qb, only that he will have a crack at being the Qb.

Exactly, it doesn't mean that Beck will cut it as a starting QB.

 

[RoninFin4]

Well said, CK and KB, and I agree. Johnny was a 2nd round pick. No way we use another day one pick on a QB when the team has so many other needs.

Noted the same thing you did about Ireland.

You're probably right, but the 3rd round is on day 2 this year...I still think we'll draft a QB.

 

[padre31]

Exactly, it doesn't mean that Beck will cut it as a starting QB.

Not unless we can build a Oline and a Running Game with Beck required to make 15-20 passes a game until he learns how to play in the NFL.

That is what makes Ronnie's ACL so much of a problem, we are supposed to wait for Ronnie to heal 100% (and we should) meanwhile we are supposed to start a Basically Green Qb and try and win some ballgames?

We may be setting John Beck up to fail...again....unless he makes light years of progress at reading blitzes that is...

 

[MDFINFAN]

You're probably right, but the 3rd round is on day 2 this year...I still think we'll draft a QB.

I think Beck is the future, the kid show alot last year, if only he had time behind a good line...you guys saw the kid throw passes way before he wanted to. He'll adjust to the speed, and with a little better Oline, you might forget his rookie year fast. But keepiing him in a system simular to what he just learned is crucial to his development..if he keep changing system, none of our players will ever develope.