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Stevendinho

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After reading all of these posts today (which trust me, took up WAY too much time) I have to question if anyone else has either A: played football or B: in fact watched the game last night (we were the folks in the white jerseys FYI).

Here's what I took out of it --

SECONDARY -- too many mistakes.
D-LINE -- non existant.
STEELERS O-LINE -- completely took Taylor out of the play.
OFFENSIVE PLAYCALLING -- We noticed early that the run was not going to set up the pass, so we should've done the exact opposite. After 2-3 passes, we should've ran. By the second half, we were at approximately a 70% pass ratio.
CULPEPPER -- This is what has been aggrivating me those most, especially all of you "fans" who have blinders on and probobly have never played quarterback.

Culpepper looked BAD. And I will give you a point by point reason why.

* Not sure if you know this, but it's called HAPPY FEET. Culpepper (while under a lot of pressure) was not setting himself before he threw. He danced around a lot in the pocket, which is fine, but rarely was mechanically sound to make good throws.
* He was afraid to run. He'd get flushed out and prefer to make a throw than scramble. If he's afraid of getting hurt GET HIM OFF THE FIELD!
* The coaching staff is afraid. Notice on shotgun plays and a lot of passing plays Ronnie Brown had to stay back to block. You do this because A: yes, there is a lot of pressure. But mainly because B: your QB can not avaid pressure easily and can not go through his progression fast enough to make well-informed plays.
* He did not go through his progressions. He's the kind of QB who falls in love with one player on one route. See next point for why this is a problem.
* He stared down receivers. You doubt this? See Troy Palomalu's interception and near interception when we were in the shadow of our own endzone. By not even bothering to go through his progression, CPep stared down Chambers and signaled to a GREAT safety, now let me emphasize TP's greatness, and should've gotten picked twice. The Joey Porter INT was the same thing.
* He was not in sync with his WR's. I bring your attention to the third and goal late in the first half. Great PAP called, Chambers had about 3 feet on his defender, yet CPep overthrew him by about 5 yards. There were also several times during the game when he underthrew wideouts. For someone who played in all four preseason games and made most of the practices and played with the first squad, this is not an acceptable mistake. That's something Joey would do because he has not practiced or played much with the first-stringers.


On the upside

Zach Thomas played well.
Our overall run defense was very effective (for the most part -- if someone rushes 30 times a game, they'll get to 100 yards)
Ronnie Brown made those "not in the box score" kind of plays last night. I think he did a great job blocking in passing and shotgun formations.


Now for all of you who are complaining about people just jumping on the team because they lost, let me say this.

* I was AGAINST the Culpepper trade. I believed, and still do, Harrington is a better fit for the system we run.
* I am NOT a Ronnie Brown supporter. While I was not in favor of the pick, I believe his performance last night was marred by poor playcalling.


So I'm not a fan? Whatever. I'm a realist. As a former player, I understand the game and I understand mistakes. Go ahead, pile on. These fans who think Culpepper is a god, I ask you this. Did you even watch last season? He got INJURED, he wasn't hurt while he was playing. There's a reason he threw so many picks WITHOUT Randy Moss.
 
Being a former player I have to agree on DC analysis. He looked out of sync and not sure of himself. On the other hand I think he was trying to justify why we took him over Brees so he tried to carry the team but had the butterflies on him for the first game.
 
Stevendinho said:
After reading all of these posts today (which trust me, took up WAY too much time) I have to question if anyone else has either A: played football or B: in fact watched the game last night (we were the folks in the white jerseys FYI).

Here's what I took out of it --

SECONDARY -- too many mistakes.
D-LINE -- non existant.
STEELERS O-LINE -- completely took Taylor out of the play.
OFFENSIVE PLAYCALLING -- We noticed early that the run was not going to set up the pass, so we should've done the exact opposite. After 2-3 passes, we should've ran. By the second half, we were at approximately a 70% pass ratio.
CULPEPPER -- This is what has been aggrivating me those most, especially all of you "fans" who have blinders on and probobly have never played quarterback.

Culpepper looked BAD. And I will give you a point by point reason why.

* Not sure if you know this, but it's called HAPPY FEET. Culpepper (while under a lot of pressure) was not setting himself before he threw. He danced around a lot in the pocket, which is fine, but rarely was mechanically sound to make good throws.
* He was afraid to run. He'd get flushed out and prefer to make a throw than scramble. If he's afraid of getting hurt GET HIM OFF THE FIELD!
* The coaching staff is afraid. Notice on shotgun plays and a lot of passing plays Ronnie Brown had to stay back to block. You do this because A: yes, there is a lot of pressure. But mainly because B: your QB can not avaid pressure easily and can not go through his progression fast enough to make well-informed plays.
* He did not go through his progressions. He's the kind of QB who falls in love with one player on one route. See next point for why this is a problem.
* He stared down receivers. You doubt this? See Troy Palomalu's interception and near interception when we were in the shadow of our own endzone. By not even bothering to go through his progression, CPep stared down Chambers and signaled to a GREAT safety, now let me emphasize TP's greatness, and should've gotten picked twice. The Joey Porter INT was the same thing.
* He was not in sync with his WR's. I bring your attention to the third and goal late in the first half. Great PAP called, Chambers had about 3 feet on his defender, yet CPep overthrew him by about 5 yards. There were also several times during the game when he underthrew wideouts. For someone who played in all four preseason games and made most of the practices and played with the first squad, this is not an acceptable mistake. That's something Joey would do because he has not practiced or played much with the first-stringers.


On the upside

Zach Thomas played well.
Our overall run defense was very effective (for the most part -- if someone rushes 30 times a game, they'll get to 100 yards)
Ronnie Brown made those "not in the box score" kind of plays last night. I think he did a great job blocking in passing and shotgun formations.


Now for all of you who are complaining about people just jumping on the team because they lost, let me say this.

* I was AGAINST the Culpepper trade. I believed, and still do, Harrington is a better fit for the system we run.
* I am NOT a Ronnie Brown supporter. While I was not in favor of the pick, I believe his performance last night was marred by poor playcalling.


So I'm not a fan? Whatever. I'm a realist. As a former player, I understand the game and I understand mistakes. Go ahead, pile on. These fans who think Culpepper is a god, I ask you this. Did you even watch last season? He got INJURED, he wasn't hurt while he was playing. There's a reason he threw so many picks WITHOUT Randy Moss.

yes we know...but it certainly escapes you...hater
 
I wish you could tell Saban all of your thoughtful information on QB fit within the Dolphin system and how Ronnie Brown is not someone you support. Obviously, your knowledge in that arena far surpasses any of the know it alls in the front office.

Just remind them that you've played high school football, and show them these incredible observations youve made and theylll bring you aboard.

Culpepper sucks!! You should put that in your sig so everyone knows you called it in the beginning of the season.
 
Stevendinho said:
* I was AGAINST the Culpepper trade. I believed, and still do, Harrington is a better fit for the system we run.
* I am NOT a Ronnie Brown supporter. While I was not in favor of the pick, I believe his performance last night was marred by poor playcalling.

And there you go.
 
Stevendinho said:
* I was AGAINST the Culpepper trade. I believed, and still do, Harrington is a better fit for the system we run.
* I am NOT a Ronnie Brown supporter. While I was not in favor of the pick, I believe his performance last night was marred by poor playcalling.


So I'm not a fan? I'm a realist. As a former player, I understand the game and I understand mistakes. Go ahead, pile on. These fans who think Culpepper is a god, I ask you this. Did you even watch last season? He got INJURED, he wasn't hurt while he was playing. There's a reason he threw so many picks WITHOUT Randy Moss.

The Harrington comment may be valid but its a big "WHAT IF". I say support your team and dont judge after 1 game. Ok we didnt look like SB Champions but who can? Oh yes, the team we played last night! Nuff said
 
Ok, I'll first say that I am a supporter of Daunte. But I will also be the first to say that he choked last night with those two INT's. However, you "haters" have to realize that the whole game-plan changed after two key points in the game. First being the stupidity by Lehon or whatever that garbage guy with the illegal hands to the face. Our D-line forced a 3 and out on the Steelers 15 yrd line with a sack and 2 hurries. Then the 2nd big momentum changer involved our non-existant secondary once again. They gave up a BS TD to Heath Miller. Even though that TD should have been overturned after our challenge, there was absolutely no safety help on that deep post route which left Zach out to dry. Once again, the game-plan changed after all of this. Daunte did choke and tried to be a hero instead of doing what he had done all game prior to the last 6 minutes. He had Ronnie wide-open out in the flats on that 2nd INT by porter. You "haters" gotta realize that Joey Harrington is not the answer. He's a solid BACK-UP QB, but he would never have done anything against the Steelers D. His reads throughout his career have been awful. There was absolutely no balance with out offense. We abandoned the run way too early b/c our run-blocking was almost as bad as our secondary last night. We need to make adjustments and stop panicing. The Steelers were Super Bowl champs last year and they showed they definitely are here to compete again this year. Last night's game just displayed one big thing I've been saying the past two years. BIG BEN IS OVERRATED... any halfway decent QB a.k.a. Batch can put up #'s and execute in their system. RELAX people, it was the 1st game of the season... we've got 15 left. Lets whoop up on Buffalo next week and get back on track!!
 
See what I mean. People just use Happy Feet without knowing what it is.
 
The coaching staff is afraid. Notice on shotgun plays and a lot of passing plays Ronnie Brown had to stay back to block. You do this because A: yes, there is a lot of pressure. But mainly because B: your QB can not avaid pressure easily and can not go through his progression fast enough to make well-informed plays


A i agree with. AS for B your kidding right. If you don't block nothing works.
If you want to go down field you need more than 2 seconds of blocking.
 
I just watched a replay again of that Palomalo interception. It was one of those big "almost made it" kind of passes. If Daunte didn't throw off his back foot and he put a little more arc and velocity on the ball it would have been a TD for Chambers. You KNOW he can easily make that throw, but for some reason he just didn't do it.

I get the feeling that Daunte might have some perfectionist tendencies that are counterproductive when he's in pressure situations. He needs to be able to talk himself into a focused, calm state and then just throw the ball like he normally would in practice. He needs to remember the last time he threw the ball perfectly on a given play in practice and then stick with it in the game. I think once Daunte gets that "grace under pressure" aspect of his game mastered, he'll be back to his 2004 level.
 
Stevendinho said:
After reading all of these posts today (which trust me, took up WAY too much time) I have to question if anyone else has either A: played football or B: in fact watched the game last night (we were the folks in the white jerseys FYI).

Umm, Steve after reading what you wrote (And yes, wish I had not wasted my time), I can see that you never did much football or watched much of the game last night......But hey, I can see you did at least know what color our Jerseys were....good job

Here is a little hint for you, Miami was only a few mistakes away from beating last years champs on opening day in their home to a full Stadium, when they were to get their rings, and have Bettis make an appearance. That was an extremely emotional game for the Steelers, and with Big Ben out, they were out for blood, If we had beat them (again, 3 quarters and a half into the game looked like we might), I would have been going crazy.

When the Patriots won their 1st superbowl, they got blown out by the Bills, so considering you are so knowledgeable about all things football, please let me know who much they stunk that year.
 
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