Anyone here think Foles is better than Tannehill?
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Did you really say steadier? haha! Good one! Rating through the years: 79-119-81-69-105-79... The only thing steady is that he completely failed when not playing behind the best OL in the NFL...
Watson.. on the basis of a losing record and 4 games... no
Wentz.. definitely, he's a stud
Goff: 1 worse rookie year than Tannehill, 1 good year with a studly all everything RB = TBD
Cousins: worse losing record including losing last 5 out of 8... junk time stats on prevent defenses... Nope
Foles: Maybe, when he was good he was good, when he was bad, he was a lot worse than THill = TBD
Now if you wanted to pose those same comparisons about Winston or Mariota, maybe the answers would be more favorable.
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I did. I thought it was ridiculous he was out walking around on the streets.
I mean, I see where you are coming from, but he’s got 1y left on his deal so he kind of has no choice but to stay, unless Philly trades him. He’s got $4M salary & $3M roster bonus upcoming for ‘18.
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Lmao sure, why not? We haven't done this Tanny thread yet.
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I'm a big RT supporter, but gun to my head right now and I'd pick Foles. He made some throws yesterday that were absolute baller, on a whole other level. Throws I've never seen RT make.
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So now it's QB rating? Both QB career ratings are in the 86-87 range.
The difference is here:
Foles
39 career regular season starts
4 career playoff starts
25-18 W-L
4.4 TD pct
2.1 INT pct
5.5 sack pct
7 4th quarter comebacks
9 Game winning drives
Tannehill
77 career regular season starts
0 career playoff starts
37-40 W-L
4.0 TD pct
2.5 INT pct
7.5 sack pct
12 4th quarter comebacks
10 game winning drives
Oh and Foles is a year younger. And not coming off ACL surgery. Ask any GM worth their weight and do they take Tannehill with these numbers and coming off injury. Or Foles coming off super bowl MVP.
Use the eye test. It's not even close.
Tannehill is a glorified Chad Henne and no one wants to face it. He is what he is. He isn't changing.
Draft a QB. In the first round.
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Better question: is the Jay Ajayi they had better than the Jay Ajayi we had? Sure looked like it....so maybe, just maybe, offensive line play is a decent factor.
Anyway, the correct answer to the question is that it’s irrelevant because if he gets traded it will be to a team that is desparate for a starting QB....and will overpay. That’s not us
Anyway, the correct answer to the question is that it’s irrelevant because if he gets traded it will be to a team that is desparate for a starting QB....and will overpay. That’s not us
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And take out one monster system season from Foles five seasons ago and he’s been mediocre at best. His QBR hasn’t touched 40 in the regular season in 4 years. You have to remember that Foles had 27 TD to 2 INT in a season five years ago....his other years he has combined for a 33 TD to 27 INT ratio.
The Henne comparison is just silly. Henne three more picks than touchdowns. He was 18-35 in his career and had 4 fourth quarter comebacks.
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BTW....if Nick Foles is so good, why was he traded for Sam Bradford?
I'm not going to argue with most of what you said if you believe Foles is better than Tannehill but Tannehill a glorified Chad Henne? Come on man don't do that. Chad Henne has a career QB rating of 75.5 and has 58tds to 63ints. Chad Henne was never top 15 in any passing category besides INT's. Chad Henne has only thrown for more TD's than Int's 1 time in his career and that was 2014 when he had 3tds to 1int. I'm not the biggest Tannehill fan but you comparing him to Henne is just madness.
As of today those two players aren't even on the same stratosphere. That may not be popular around here but it's the world wide NFL football fan reality. I was thinking about it during the late stages of the game. Foles is now eligible to walk out there among fellow Super Bowl MVPs every time the game is renewed. That is an awesome accomplishment.
Foltz has done it while Tannehill is like those outdoor projection devices that were supposedly going to be popular during the Christmas season. Home Depot and other stores were loaded with those things. Meanwhile when I went to purchase Christmas leftovers on severe discount a few days after Christmas, all the good stuff was long gone but every store still had dozens and dozens of those projection devices.
They basically couldn't give them away. That gave me more confidence in the American public for a change. Projection shouldn't be popular.
I don't understand Nick Foles' career. It shouldn't be possible to have a freakish season surrounded by next to nothing. Since I believe everything tends to drift back to the beginning Nick Foles was always eligible to return to that type of form, but when and for how long was always the variable.
He happened to find the ideal time frame, and for just long enough.
Peterson's play calling was spectacular. That certainly played a huge role. During the game I was also thinking about Gase's play calling and how can it possibly be applauded or accepted when you've got such a blatantly superior example smack in front of you.
Foles at his best also owns far more nuances than Tannehill does, like subtle shifts in the pocket, throwing from varied platforms, and altering the pace to fit the requirement of the play. He took just the proper amount off the ball on the winning touchdown pass to Ertz. With Tannehill, that throw is a dart.
Power backs enable that type of thing. Such a necessity in the playoffs. Peterson wisely found two and used both to maximum advantage. The Patriots, on the other hand, were stuck with a small cutesy backfield and all the frailty that goes along with that. It was impossible to watch the game without thinking how different it might have played out if Blount and/or Ajayi had been with New England.
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Foltz has done it while Tannehill is like those outdoor projection devices that were supposedly going to be popular during the Christmas season. Home Depot and other stores were loaded with those things. Meanwhile when I went to purchase Christmas leftovers on severe discount a few days after Christmas, all the good stuff was long gone but every store still had dozens and dozens of those projection devices.
They basically couldn't give them away. That gave me more confidence in the American public for a change. Projection shouldn't be popular.
I don't understand Nick Foles' career. It shouldn't be possible to have a freakish season surrounded by next to nothing. Since I believe everything tends to drift back to the beginning Nick Foles was always eligible to return to that type of form, but when and for how long was always the variable.
He happened to find the ideal time frame, and for just long enough.
Peterson's play calling was spectacular. That certainly played a huge role. During the game I was also thinking about Gase's play calling and how can it possibly be applauded or accepted when you've got such a blatantly superior example smack in front of you.
Foles at his best also owns far more nuances than Tannehill does, like subtle shifts in the pocket, throwing from varied platforms, and altering the pace to fit the requirement of the play. He took just the proper amount off the ball on the winning touchdown pass to Ertz. With Tannehill, that throw is a dart.
Power backs enable that type of thing. Such a necessity in the playoffs. Peterson wisely found two and used both to maximum advantage. The Patriots, on the other hand, were stuck with a small cutesy backfield and all the frailty that goes along with that. It was impossible to watch the game without thinking how different it might have played out if Blount and/or Ajayi had been with New England.
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Don’t see the Super Bowl MVP happy being a backup...Philly will reap a nice draft pick from a QB hungry team.
Nick Foles had that AMAZING season 5 years ago, I'll give you that, no arguments here... Since then, he's got 28 TDs, 22 INTs, 58% comp%, 6.4 y/a... Now he did have a great playoffs run, but are those 3 games more relevant than the last 29 before that... Also keep in mind that there's a good chance he wont play behind a better OL on his next stop..