Clamming Chowder hah that's pretty witty. He was as mediocre as they come. Sam Euguaven is definitely below that, a bottom 30% player. I would tend to agree with you that KVN is a step above CC and a big step above Euguaven...I thought better than Ok but it depends on the definition of Ok. To me guys like Clamming Chowder and Sam Euguaven were “ok”. So for me, KCN was better than ok. Not losing sleep over it though.