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Barry Jackson: Dolphins optimistic that Gase, Joseph will elevate player performance

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The Dolphins, for several years, have lacked high-level coaches who had a unique or special skill, men who could extract more from players than most others could. Joe Philbin and the recent coordinators certainly could not. But management believes new coach Adam Gase and new defensive coordinator Vance Joseph have that ability and they look at some of their offseason moves through that prism.
The Dolphins hired Gase convinced he could fix Ryan Tannehill. That’s based on Tim Tebow and Jay Cutler producing their best pro seasons with Gase, as well as Denver becoming the NFL’s first 600-point team with Gase calling plays in 2013.
Defensively, the Dolphins believe Joseph can help elevate some of their young players (Bobby McCain, Tony Lippett, Jamar Taylor) and implement a system that maximizes veterans coming off down seasons (Mario Williams, Byron Maxwell).
Incumbent defensive backs coach Lou Anarumo did good work with Lippett’s transition from receiver to cornerback, but Joseph excels in getting the most out of defensive backs (Pacman Jones, George Iloka and others), and he’s going to be hands-on with the Dolphins’ young corners and safeties.
As a rookie, McCain allowed a 107.5 passer rating in his coverage area, and 18 of 31 passes for be caught, for 264 yards. But with this staff, the Dolphins believe he can become a very good player, the ball-hawking corner who caught their eye at Memphis.
The Dolphins believe this staff can salvage Taylor, who had a 134.8 passer rating against. “I will be successful somewhere,” Taylor said at the end of the season, when he was unsure of his future. “I’ve learned from my mistakes.”
The Dolphins asked safety Walt Aikens, coming off labrum surgery, to learn cornerback as well as safety, and Joseph will work with him, too.
“I’ve seen so many players go from average to elite under Vance Joseph,” CBS analyst and Cincinnati-based ex-Bengals star linebacker Solomon Wilcots told The Finsiders.
What’s more, Dolphins management believes Joseph’s system will make Byron Maxwell a far better player than he was in Philadelphia and return Mario Williams to his 2014 level, when he had 14.5 sacks as a 4-3 defensive end, before producing just five as a 3-4 outside linebacker in 2015.
“We feel playing in our 4-3 under Vance Joseph will play to [Williams’] strengths – a bigger, longer guy,” Dolphins senior vice president/football operations Mike Tannenbaum said on his regular segment on ESPN Radio West Palm. “We think in our scheme, he can be a really good fit for us.”
And on Maxwell, “the way we are going to use the player, we're excited about him,” Tannenbaum said. “We like his length; we like his physicality. Those were things important to us in Vance Joseph's defense.”
Though Maxwell allowed a 100.7 passer rating in his coverage area last season, he was solid from Week 4 through Week 17: one touchdown allowed, two picks and a 76.9 passer rating against. In his three years in Seattle (2012-14), he had very good passer ratings against: 52.4, 57.8 and 78.5.
And what can the Dolphins expect from Williams?
“When he can pin his ears back and rush the passer, he can make a difference,” said Bills radio analyst Mark Kelso, who watched him closely last season. “He's not going to be the player he was at 24 and he's not going to take over a game like J.J. Watt can. If he's playing a top flight offensive tackle, he won't be as effective as when he was younger.
“But he's easily a mismatch for any tight end in the league; he will win those battles. I think he’s still got a lot left in the tank.”
The Dolphins agree, and the way Joseph will use him should help.



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Our only hope is the coaching staff. Especially now that they are being saddled with poor personnel by a pitiful FO.

If Gase and Joseph can overcome these deficiencies they are truly great coaches.
 
I bet josephs very high on eli apple

If Miami does take Apple, we will be going from one of the shortest pair of corners, to probably one of the tallest. Considering some of the receivers Miami will be facing again this, year, might not be a bad thing.
 
If Miami does take Apple, we will be going from one of the shortest pair of corners, to probably one of the tallest. Considering some of the receivers Miami will be facing again this, year, might not be a bad thing.

Read the tea leaves...they like length and they like physicality...apple is physical in press needs to get more physical in some aspects but he has the ideal length and if joseph is gonna be that hands on with the dbs id bet money he thinks he can reach apples ceiling as a player

It just seems like too easy of a fit...that kids got all the physical tools and serious raw upside...not to mention i think miamis gonna mirror the look joseph had in cinci in terms of scheme and how they use the dbs and i see apple fitting that all the way
 
I like Apple a ton early in this process. Only thing that bothers me is he has not ran a 3 cone? Why?

I want all the boxes checked.
 
William Jackson is going to be considered too. Completely underrated.

Alexander is not nearly as big, but has an athletic build and bravado to succeed.

I do think they go CB early.
 
Read the tea leaves...they like length and they like physicality...apple is physical in press needs to get more physical in some aspects but he has the ideal length and if joseph is gonna be that hands on with the dbs id bet money he thinks he can reach apples ceiling as a player

It just seems like too easy of a fit...that kids got all the physical tools and serious raw upside...not to mention i think miamis gonna mirror the look joseph had in cinci in terms of scheme and how they use the dbs and i see apple fitting that all the way

I like apple, but William Jackson lll something about this kid screams impact player.
 
I cringe every time I read "fix" Ryan Tannehill. How about just not run a sh*t show and run a good scheme with decent protection. He can improve but articles like these act like he was the reason we were 6-10.
 
Read the tea leaves...they like length and they like physicality...apple is physical in press needs to get more physical in some aspects but he has the ideal length and if joseph is gonna be that hands on with the dbs id bet money he thinks he can reach apples ceiling as a player

It just seems like too easy of a fit...that kids got all the physical tools and serious raw upside...not to mention i think miamis gonna mirror the look joseph had in cinci in terms of scheme and how they use the dbs and i see apple fitting that all the way

That could also be William Jackson..
 
Kept thinking CB was the way they were going to go but going into the draft with the way the roster is I'm much more uncertain -CB,DL,OL,RB could be any of those 2 positions in the first two rounds?
 
I'm actually excited about the new coaches. I know that we won't be super bowl contenders but I do feel these guys will use the weapons they have and put them in a good spot to succeed. I like gase with tannehill. I believe he will work well with him. Ajayi might excel under him also. He was a good receiving back out of college.
 
Proven records of the vast majority of their players improving significantly means we finally have a coaching staff of teachers that know how to reach and motivate today's athletes. I'm excited.

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Look i actually like the front office moves. Vernon goes on streaks of not even close of being effective.

Just feel like we shouldev resigned Lamar Miller & gotten a corner and guard in the draft and other depth as well.
 
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