Barry Jackson: Plenty Of Dolphins Veterans On The Roster Bubble

[Pandarilla]

Has anyone noticed this Farnsworth dude actually snapping the ball in preseason?

Never even bothered.

Our make a wish kid is slated to play the second half at RG...

 

[Atila]

I can't see Kiko getting outright cut, regardless of cash savings. But if they get a 4th/5th for him, I see a move made. Maybe even let him go for a 6th, depending on how much they want to throw the newbs in the fire.

Hurns is out, and he even alluded to it as much when they asked him a few days ago. Butler probably as well.

Agree with the poster who said all our bubble players are trash. Lol.

 

[Danny]

I'd take any pick for Kiko at this point. We won't use 3 LB's very often anyway. If he stays he'll be playing ST's.

 

[TKAllDay]

A fourth or fifth for Kiki? Really? We are looking at a 7th next year if anything

 

[Atila]

A fourth or fifth for Kiki? Really? We are looking at a 7th next year if anything

Yeah, I think he could fetch a 5th for a team making a serious superbowl push - he makes mistakes, but his splash plays on an absolute garbage team have been undervalued around here.

But perhaps a 6th/7th is more realistic? Do they move him for a low pick, though? He's still arguably our 2nd best LB after Baker.

 

[13marino13]

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article234142607.html

Thanks for posting SC! Good read, nice synopsis of where the vets stand and who's on the bubble.

 

[13marino13]

Has anyone noticed this Farnsworth dude actually snapping the ball in preseason?

Never even bothered.

I didn't even know they had another long snapper in camp, let alone on the field...

 

[13marino13]

That list of veterans just shows you the state of this franchise. There isn't one guy on that list that ever was or ever will be a difference maker on an NFL roster.

Should make the cuts easy!

 

[13marino13]

Difference makers aren't usually on the danger to be cut list?

The ones past their prime normally are.

 

[13marino13]

I’d cut all of hurns butler and mills. maybe Spence. And that would largely depend on how close nkemdiche is

Id probably p squad Adolphus Washington

I see Kiko being traded before any release.

Kiko is a liability in the passing game, I don't think he holds much trade value, unless they are willing to eat cap, he may stick around. Good backup on non-passing downs. He can get sideline to sideline but I think the play of Eguavoen has pretty much rendered him expendable at this point.

 

[13marino13]

Do you think that Barry Jackson's article is just him speculating or maybe someone within the Dolphins inner sanctum deliberately leaked these names to put some heat on some veteran players to see how they respond? Coach Flores observed Belichick for many years and while Bill is extremely non-communicative to the media, sometimes deliberate leaks via trusted lieutenants probably occur to see how the players respond.
This may be akin to applying heat in certain chemical experiments. You stand back and watch what happens.

The only one I could see them possibly trying to light a fire under on that list would be McMillan.

 

[13marino13]

Yeah, I think he could fetch a 5th for a team making a serious superbowl push - he makes mistakes, but his splash plays on an absolute garbage team have been undervalued around here.

But perhaps a 6th/7th is more realistic? Do they move him for a low pick, though? He's still arguably our 2nd best LB after Baker.

He's terrible in coverage. I think if they scheme like the Pats, there's going to be a lot of 2 LB sets and if that's the case, he isn't making it on the field. We need LB's that can drop and cover, he's not one of them. I liked the current combo of Baker and Eguavoen playing together, those two were all over the place.

 

[Atila]

He's terrible in coverage. I think if they scheme like the Pats, there's going to be a lot of 2 LB sets and if that's the case, he isn't making it on the field. We need LB's that can drop and cover, he's not one of them. I liked the current combo of Baker and Eguavoen playing together, those two were all over the place.

I don't disagree too much with anything said here.

With that said, he still has value, and will continue to get playtime in this league. He'll make plays... he could be a solid 3rd LB for a team making a deep run in the playoffs.

 

[jazz015]

He's terrible in coverage. I think if they scheme like the Pats, there's going to be a lot of 2 LB sets and if that's the case, he isn't making it on the field. We need LB's that can drop and cover, he's not one of them. I liked the current combo of Baker and Eguavoen playing together, those two were all over the place.

Kiko made a few plays here and there I liked him when he was first here. But over the past two years he has been more of a liability than a playmaker in his time. He makes a good play but then disappears for long stretches. It is this thing where we were never secure with him playing on defense, we still sucked royally. That and his knack for diving at sliding qbs and letting tight ends have career games is not something Flores will let slide

 

[13marino13]

I don't disagree too much with anything said here.

With that said, he still has value, and will continue to get playtime in this league. He'll make plays... he could be a solid 3rd LB for a team making a deep run in the playoffs.

I agree he still does have some value, just not sure it's with us. How much someones willing to give up knowing his flaws, that's a tough one. It would be nice to get something for him. In a pass-heavy league, his options will be limited given his deficiencies in the passing game.