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Bates or Saban

Bates was a players coach which was good. If the players like him they will play hard for him. If you get a hardass coach some players just won't try as hard, or don't get care when times are tough. But, i think Saban was the better choice, but if he declined the dolphins job i would think Bates would be a good choice.
 
Wanny was also known as a players coach and we all know how being mr nice guy turned out.. Saban is in some respects a players coach but he demands respect from players.. And he gets it... Wanny was a players coach who nobody respected...
 
IronChef said:
Wanny was also known as a players coach and we all know how being mr nice guy turned out.. Saban is in some respects a players coach but he demands respect from players.. And he gets it... Wanny was a players coach who nobody respected...
Wanny wanted to be everyone's friend and tried to make people happy. Saban on the other hand wants results and isn't afraid to take charge. I actually felt scared at points during his Pre-Draft PC. He is going to get the most out of the players, something Wanny could never do.
 
Well put.... Saban is a true leader.. And something tells me that were gonna be really good really fast...
 
wazzy said:
Now be honest how many people thought it was a bad decision when they gave the head coaching job to Saban after Bates did such a good job especially after the win over New England on the Monday Nighter

:shakeno:

Anyone that actually does think that needs to give up the crack.
 
i'd say bates was a "hardass" too, but he was a respected one, unlike wanny.
 
pwn3dyo said:
i'd say bates was a "hardass" too, but he was a respected one, unlike wanny.
I don't think he is as tuff as Saban though, and I think Saban is bar far the better choice. I think Bates is head coach material though and I think he will be promoted to head coach for the 2006 season in Green Bay(Assuming Sherman gets canned).
 
Bates is a nice guy..I'd take him over Wanny anyday, but Saban is the real deal!!! I hope:) .

I just wanted to do away the whole Jimmy Johnson era....
 
big deal we beat St. Louis then Cleveland, San Fran who we should have KILLED! and lucked out with New Engand.
 
adolfan131313

Your Kidding Right.............bates Over Saben, Not Even Close. Bates Is A Cordinator, Saben Is A Head Coach........... Hence Buddy Ryan, Turner, Pornostache Man Wanny, Rhodes,all Good Cordinators, Bad Coaches
 
I did like Bates very much, he always had a lot of fire in him, but my first choice was Saban.
 
I agree saban is a far far better choice. you can't pass it up when someone like Nick Saban is interested in coaching your team, but if he wasn't on the market i think Jim Bates could succeed being a HC in the nfl.
 
Bates was nothing but an AVG DC IMO. He was handed a GREAT D, and they did not improve under his coaching. They got even worse in big games.

Saban, only time will tell what will come of that, but there is no doubt Saban was the only real choice to make.
 
Bates was my favourite coach. But Wayne needed to bring in a whole new system and I agree with that, I wouldn't have been happy if we kept Jim even though we would probably be doing ok with him, I think Wayne hired Saban because it would get good press and us fans would be impressed with the signing and it showed us that we were striving to win. (It impressed me) :)
 
the only real differences between Wanny and Bates were that Bates let the OC do his job (which turned out to be a pretty bad one), and he mixed up blitz packages.

Bates was a nice guy like Wanny, and the players played hard for him because they liked him, but If he was the HC I doubt he would be able to motivate the team.

Speaking of motivation, does anyone remember when Mark Royals came out and said Wanny would hire motivational speakers to try to motivate the team at halftime? :eek:
 
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