Behavior

[sleek]

1)Who thinks harsh consequences would stop the spread of bad behavior?

2)Who thinks who cares they are just here to play football, keep the talented players on the field, the way it is is just fine?

 

[Geforce]

Could you be a litttle more specific in what you think constitutes harsh consequences.

I don't think it will curtail some players either way. Some of the behavior has more to do with them being human (somewhat misguided) and not just athletes.

 

[Slim]

Professional athletes get away with murder (no pun intended).
I think teams should seriously crack down. Think about it, every job i've applied for has run a criminal record check on me. If i were to get arrested for possession of drugs or something like that, i would be fired from my job on the spot. So what allows these guys to run wrecklessly?

 

[sleek]

Could you be a litttle more specific in what you think constitutes harsh consequences.

iguess that topic would also be open to discussion but, id imagine a rule would have to be universally fair, I mean if u abused a substance then this ,and if u committed a crime then this., id say u couldnt play favorites it would have to be the same for everbody?

 

[volk]

Indeed. Most Americans would lose their jobs following a serious criminal act...in the NFL, you can be associated with a murder and become the Superbowl MVP and be used as the principle marketing face.

Harsh penalties may not deter everything, but the current system almost awards you street credit and reputation for doing illegal stuff.

 

[SoDakDolfan]

If you look at the history of penalty in the world it is clear that harsh consequences are a deterent. Will it stop all people? No way! But if the consequences are great enough it does cause most people to think before acting, and a little bit of thinking can stop a lot of stupid behavior.

 

[Dave007]

If you look at the history of penalty in the world it is clear that harsh consequences are a deterent. Will it stop all people? No way! But if the consequences are great enough it does cause most people to think before acting, and a little bit of thinking can stop a lot of stupid behavior.

Amen Brotherray:

 

[Geforce]

Professional athletes get away with murder (no pun intended).
I think teams should seriously crack down. Think about it, every job i've applied for has run a criminal record check on me. If i were to get arrested for possession of drugs or something like that, i would be fired from my job on the spot. So what allows these guys to run wrecklessly?

Not just professional athletes but celebrities and polititians as well. They play by different rules than the average citizens.
I'm sure alot of teams would like to crack down on some of these players but the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the players and the league won't allow them to come down as hard as many would like. Teams do have a recourse by placing character clauses in a player's contract.

 

[EBMisfit]

1)Who thinks harsh consequences would stop the spread of bad behavior?

2)Who thinks who cares they are just here to play football, keep the talented players on the field, the way it is is just fine?

Define "bad behavior" and "harsh consequences". As for me, I don't think there should be any preferential treatment or additional punishment either way just because someone happens to be an athlete.

 

[sleek]

Define "bad behavior" and "harsh consequences". As for me, I don't think there should be any preferential treatment or additional punishment either way just because someone happens to be an athlete.

Bad behavior:Substance abuse ,illegal crime
consequences :guaranteed suspensions,loss of job
i guess basically the same things a regular citizen would be confronted with

 

[Geforce]

Indeed. Most Americans would lose their jobs following a serious criminal act...in the NFL, you can be associated with a murder and become the Superbowl MVP and be used as the principle marketing face.

Harsh penalties may not deter everything, but the current system almost awards you street credit and reputation for doing illegal stuff.

Being associated with a murder is not the same as committing one. It would be unfair to force someone to lose their job based on whom they are associated with.

 

[Geforce]

Bad behavior:Substance abuse ,illegal crime
consequences :guaranteed suspensions,loss of job
i guess basically the same things a regular citizen would be confronted with

Players do face guaranteed suspensions for substance abuse...see Ricky Williams.

The NFL (owners, coaches & GMs) can only do what the CBA allows them to do. In other words, what the players allow them to do.

The inmates are running the asylum.

 

[sleek]

Players do face guaranteed suspensions for substance

Iwasn't saying thats how it is iwas saying maybe thats how it should be bcause that on guy asked what i meant by harsher consequences

 

[DolphinzD]

Indeed. Most Americans would lose their jobs following a serious criminal act...in the NFL, you can be associated with a murder and become the Superbowl MVP and be used as the principle marketing face.

Oh, but wait, Ray Lewis was only guilty of obstruction of justice.....and did he even get a slap on the wrist?

I hate Ray Lewis with a passion. I also hate Leonard Little. He drove under the influence and killed someone in a crash, and is he in jail? Nope. If one of us everyday citizens did what he did, we'd probably be in jail for years, if not for life.

 

[volk]

Being associated with a murder is not the same as committing one. It would be unfair to force someone to lose their job based on whom they are associated with.

Very true. Ray Lewis was not found guilty of murder, but the obstruction of justice was a very serious charge in implicating and connecting him to the scene of the crime. In short, Ray-Ray was hardly "clean", and the investigating officers still believe him to be guilty. There is also suspicion that Lewis payed to get the very best attorney's for his friends, whom he testified against, and were later acquited.

Despite the murder charges and the guilty plea to obstruction, the NFL decided to use him as their "spokesperson" in all their official NFL commercials leading up to, and during, the following season! From murder suspect to NFL spokesperson! No one in their right mind can possibly think that was acceptable :shakeno:

It is time for the NFL to start being more responsible with this.