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This was not a playoff team all year, period. I don't think anyone would have enjoyed watching our team get pounded in Buffalo with an erratic Snoop or an unreliable Tua. I'm talking about more than our starter's health, btw. He is unreliable in every possible way that matters.

I thought that Rodgers would put in a great performance on his way out, just as I thought McD and his boys would not.

This is a HC who isn't learning, is wasting good young players, leads the league in most yards lost calling ridiculous, unnecessary stupid plays. Routinely turns first and 10 into second and 15 or worse. Wastes timeouts like they're free and generally has little feel for the game. I know soccer fans who would do better than his 4 for 20+ challenge rate. It's over cool guy, turn in your silly playbook, pack your crap and head West, young man.

Why was Achane, or Jonnu Smith on the field down 12 with less than a minute left? and they called a play for Achane that had no upside, just a risk of a really stupid injury

I think Jaylen Wright must be wondering "are there any decent plays in coach's playbook for me?"

I saw a very long list of impending free agents for this team and they only one who would come back is Ogbah.

For those who were encouraged by better offensive play in the second half, don't be. We never play complimentary football so we watched the defense completely crap the bed as Snoop and the O looked decent for about 2 drives.

Speaking of the defense, is anyone still convinced this is a top 10 unit? Doesn't look like it to me whether Weaver stays or not. There are too many holes and too many JAGs on this side of the ball. When 4/5's of your secondary are UDFAs, washed up vets and your former star safety who hasn't played well since the Obama administration, you have problems. When your LBs are this average, you have problems. When the only guys who are healthy and coming back from your front four are Chop and Sieler you better bring in major reinforcements from the draft.

Ty Warren or an impact defender for me at #13 and I'll tell you this. I'll be watching Kelvin Banks against a very good OSU pass rush next week. If he holds up very well he won't be available at #13, if he doesn't, he won't be worth the 13h pick. I think there might be some real value on the edge available at 13 and we can't have enough good young edges. It worked well for the Nyets tonight with Will McDonald who absolutely abused your vet LT tonight.

I don't need to look at the PFF grades from the OL. It was the worst performance of the year. we're getting 2 new guards next year one way or the other. I just pray to the football gods that McLovin' won't be around to select them or coach them. I'm convinced that a huge problem with this OL is that by calling these dopey plays he is counting on his OL to do things that good linemen would have trouble doing. It looked to me that on more than one of his inane running plays his OL didn't know who to block (game 17 btw) and there were gaping holes in the line before or right after the back got the ball.

I love that Jalen Ramsey still gives AF that young punks like Garrett Wilson are beating him but that's going to have to be addressed at some point, either personnel or scheme wise.

Why can't this team win in the cold? because they're soft AF, simple as that and it comes from the HC.

If Bob Kraft can cut the cord after 1 year, Mr Magoo can, too.

Last thing- Least Objectionable Player awards go to Zach Sieler, Jordyn Brooks, Calais Campbell and Jonnu Smith.
Rookie who didn't embarrass himself award goes to Chop and Malik Washington
Least valuable player award is a tie between the two starting guards and the two starting safeties
 
This was posted in another thread. If it's real, then all hope that Miami will have a better GM and HC next year is lost!

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It's real according to the major media outlets

 
Ross loves continuity, even if it's producing an atrocious on-field product. This is, and has been his MO. Expecting sweeping changes was outside of the realm of possibility... Not even surprised, honestly. Just more of the same.
 
This was posted in another thread. If it's real, then all hope that Miami will have a better GM and HC next year is lost!

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Yeah getting embarrassed by the stinking Jets followed by that gut punch from that clown Ross. Just to let all the fans he doesn't give a damn about winning so he will be bringing back the two losers running the team into the ground.
 
This was not a playoff team all year, period. I don't think anyone would have enjoyed watching our team get pounded in Buffalo with an erratic Snoop or an unreliable Tua. I'm talking about more than our starter's health, btw. He is unreliable in every possible way that matters.

I thought that Rodgers would put in a great performance on his way out, just as I thought McD and his boys would not.

This is a HC who isn't learning, is wasting good young players, leads the league in most yards lost calling ridiculous, unnecessary stupid plays. Routinely turns first and 10 into second and 15 or worse. Wastes timeouts like they're free and generally has little feel for the game. I know soccer fans who would do better than his 4 for 20+ challenge rate. It's over cool guy, turn in your silly playbook, pack your crap and head West, young man.

Why was Achane, or Jonnu Smith on the field down 12 with less than a minute left? and they called a play for Achane that had no upside, just a risk of a really stupid injury

I think Jaylen Wright must be wondering "are there any decent plays in coach's playbook for me?"

I saw a very long list of impending free agents for this team and they only one who would come back is Ogbah.

For those who were encouraged by better offensive play in the second half, don't be. We never play complimentary football so we watched the defense completely crap the bed as Snoop and the O looked decent for about 2 drives.

Speaking of the defense, is anyone still convinced this is a top 10 unit? Doesn't look like it to me whether Weaver stays or not. There are too many holes and too many JAGs on this side of the ball. When 4/5's of your secondary are UDFAs, washed up vets and your former star safety who hasn't played well since the Obama administration, you have problems. When your LBs are this average, you have problems. When the only guys who are healthy and coming back from your front four are Chop and Sieler you better bring in major reinforcements from the draft.

Ty Warren or an impact defender for me at #13 and I'll tell you this. I'll be watching Kelvin Banks against a very good OSU pass rush next week. If he holds up very well he won't be available at #13, if he doesn't, he won't be worth the 13h pick. I think there might be some real value on the edge available at 13 and we can't have enough good young edges. It worked well for the Nyets tonight with Will McDonald who absolutely abused your vet LT tonight.

I don't need to look at the PFF grades from the OL. It was the worst performance of the year. we're getting 2 new guards next year one way or the other. I just pray to the football gods that McLovin' won't be around to select them or coach them. I'm convinced that a huge problem with this OL is that by calling these dopey plays he is counting on his OL to do things that good linemen would have trouble doing. It looked to me that on more than one of his inane running plays his OL didn't know who to block (game 17 btw) and there were gaping holes in the line before or right after the back got the ball.

I love that Jalen Ramsey still gives AF that young punks like Garrett Wilson are beating him but that's going to have to be addressed at some point, either personnel or scheme wise.

Why can't this team win in the cold? because they're soft AF, simple as that and it comes from the HC.

If Bob Kraft can cut the cord after 1 year, Mr Magoo can, too.

Last thing- Least Objectionable Player awards go to Zach Sieler, Jordyn Brooks, Calais Campbell and Jonnu Smith.
Rookie who didn't embarrass himself award goes to Chop and Malik Washington
Least valuable player award is a tie between the two starting guards and the two starting safeties
yeah nice thought but since they announced grier is back, no upside
 
Yeah getting embarrassed by the stinking Jets followed by that gut punch from that clown Ross. Just to let all the fans he doesn't give a damn about winning so he will be bringing back the two losers running the team into the ground.
I think Grier and McDaniel convinced Ross that Miami didn't make the postseason because Tua missed six games. And that the team is close.

I hope they are both firmly on the hot seat in the coming season, because this is a very flawed team. We all see it as fans.

There are a lot of holes, starting with both guards. But it's overall philosophy too, and I don’t think Ross sees that.

The Dolphins are the only warm weather team in the division. To match up in the AFC East, and advance in the postseason, Miami has to win in cold weather. That's about physical football, being able to dictate the run game, win the short-yardage downs on both sides of the ball.

Speed is great in Miami. It's great on the road, if you can augment the physical.

My real concern is that Grier and McDaniel will continue to be just good enough to stick around for awhile.
 
I think Grier and McDaniel convinced Ross that Miami didn't make the postseason because Tua missed six games. And that the team is close.

I hope they are both firmly on the hot seat in the coming season, because this is a very flawed team. We all see it as fans.

There are a lot of holes, starting with both guards. But it's overall philosophy too, and I don’t think Ross sees that.

The Dolphins are the only warm weather team in the division. To match up in the AFC East, and advance in the postseason, Miami has to win in cold weather. That's about physical football, being able to dictate the run game, win the short-yardage downs on both sides of the ball.

Speed is great in Miami. It's great on the road, if you can augment the physical.

My real concern is that Grier and McDaniel will continue to be just good enough to stick around for awhile.
I agree that the Dolphins are a very flawed team. They have holes all over the roster. As you said they need two starting OGs I will add they also need better depth at OG. They will need at least one starting caliber LT in case Paul does not progress in year 2. Armstead hopefully finally retires because he is unreliable. Need a solid swing OT. Also will possibly need a new RT if Jackson does not return to being at least average. Need at least one more starting caliber edge because most likely Chubb is gone and Phillips is a huge question mark. Need another DT and DE if Campbell doesn't return. Need two starting safeties. Need another CB. Need a 3rd WR, preferably someone with good size. Need a good blocking TE because they currently don't have a reliable one on the roster. Someone who can compliment Jonnu Smith. Need a backup QB as well as a developmental QB. Most likely they will need a new starting QB to replace Tua in 2026 or 2027. Need a new punter.

A lot of needs that would take a top GM at least 2 off-seasons to fill. However with the Dolphins current cap situation (courtesy of Chris Grier) that will be extremely tough. So they will have to hit it big time in this upcoming draft. I do not see Grier adequately being able to fill even 2 of those needs before the 2025 season. IMO best case for 2025 is 7 to 9 wins with a possible 7th seed playoff berth. Worst case (or best case if you look at it another way) is the team completely self destructing and only winning 3 or 4 games. Which would hopefully convince Ross to make serious changes.
 
This was not a playoff team all year, period. I don't think anyone would have enjoyed watching our team get pounded in Buffalo with an erratic Snoop or an unreliable Tua. I'm talking about more than our starter's health, btw. He is unreliable in every possible way that matters.

I thought that Rodgers would put in a great performance on his way out, just as I thought McD and his boys would not.

This is a HC who isn't learning, is wasting good young players, leads the league in most yards lost calling ridiculous, unnecessary stupid plays. Routinely turns first and 10 into second and 15 or worse. Wastes timeouts like they're free and generally has little feel for the game. I know soccer fans who would do better than his 4 for 20+ challenge rate. It's over cool guy, turn in your silly playbook, pack your crap and head West, young man.

Why was Achane, or Jonnu Smith on the field down 12 with less than a minute left? and they called a play for Achane that had no upside, just a risk of a really stupid injury

I think Jaylen Wright must be wondering "are there any decent plays in coach's playbook for me?"

I saw a very long list of impending free agents for this team and they only one who would come back is Ogbah.

For those who were encouraged by better offensive play in the second half, don't be. We never play complimentary football so we watched the defense completely crap the bed as Snoop and the O looked decent for about 2 drives.

Speaking of the defense, is anyone still convinced this is a top 10 unit? Doesn't look like it to me whether Weaver stays or not. There are too many holes and too many JAGs on this side of the ball. When 4/5's of your secondary are UDFAs, washed up vets and your former star safety who hasn't played well since the Obama administration, you have problems. When your LBs are this average, you have problems. When the only guys who are healthy and coming back from your front four are Chop and Sieler you better bring in major reinforcements from the draft.

Ty Warren or an impact defender for me at #13 and I'll tell you this. I'll be watching Kelvin Banks against a very good OSU pass rush next week. If he holds up very well he won't be available at #13, if he doesn't, he won't be worth the 13h pick. I think there might be some real value on the edge available at 13 and we can't have enough good young edges. It worked well for the Nyets tonight with Will McDonald who absolutely abused your vet LT tonight.

I don't need to look at the PFF grades from the OL. It was the worst performance of the year. we're getting 2 new guards next year one way or the other. I just pray to the football gods that McLovin' won't be around to select them or coach them. I'm convinced that a huge problem with this OL is that by calling these dopey plays he is counting on his OL to do things that good linemen would have trouble doing. It looked to me that on more than one of his inane running plays his OL didn't know who to block (game 17 btw) and there were gaping holes in the line before or right after the back got the ball.

I love that Jalen Ramsey still gives AF that young punks like Garrett Wilson are beating him but that's going to have to be addressed at some point, either personnel or scheme wise.

Why can't this team win in the cold? because they're soft AF, simple as that and it comes from the HC.

If Bob Kraft can cut the cord after 1 year, Mr Magoo can, too.

Last thing- Least Objectionable Player awards go to Zach Sieler, Jordyn Brooks, Calais Campbell and Jonnu Smith.
Rookie who didn't embarrass himself award goes to Chop and Malik Washington
Least valuable player award is a tie between the two starting guards and the two starting safeties

And just 2 days ago some here had deluded themselves into thinking Grier would be gone. Hope is blind to reality.
 
I loved how the announcers made a point of how bad McDaniel is with the behind LOS passes and plays then the next play it's a tackle for a loss on the exact thing they were talking about about.

They all needed to be fired. McDaniel is the absolute worst.
No. Mayo is the worst. Followed by the Vegas Coach, Salad, Ulbricht, Eberfluss, the guy in Cincinnati, dude in Carolina, Danny Crossman, Guy with the Giants, Danny Crossman, guy in Cleveland, guy in Dallas maybe, 6-11 shanny, Danny Crossman, then McCoach.
 
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