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Best Way to Rate Tannehill as a QB?

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There is a never-ending debate on Tannehill's ability as a NFL QB, and countless ways sort out what one thinks. We have QBR, other stat analysis, YPA, accuracy, TD's and picks. etc, ESPN, NFL, PFF, other sites, analysts, media, watching games, watching film and keeping notes, adding in runs which some do not do, counting in past performance, and so on and so on.

Which one's do you use to rate our QB?
 
I use the "heart attack" method ... It's not very scientific, but I base my analysis upon how often he gives me chest pains during the course of any given week. :idk:
 
I'll tell you what I don't use: PFF, seems too untrustworthy to me, too weird and inconsistent. I don't use WV's patented "like it is" system, which is too advanced for the good of present civilization. And I certainly don't use the age old "wins" system, of which "Super Bowl rings" is a coarser subdivision, as both are a huge pile of stinking trash.
 
Numbers alone don't cut it. You have to take key stats like Accuracy % and TD/Int ratio combined with what you see on the field: toughness, leadership, pocket presence, mobility, DROPPED PASSES (can skew accuracy%) and passes that should have been intercepted (can skew TD/int ratio).
 
I take them all with a grain of salt. I was watching the Panthers game last night, and Cam Newton. If Cam Newton was on the Dolphins, would there be a rush to bench him? Or Russell Wilson? Or Nick Foles? Their number are pretty similar, with the only major difference that Russell Wilson throws less and has less picks.
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I'm with Junc as unpopular as that might be but the ability to make plays that need to be made are a big deal to me. I also like consistency, invisible halves don't cut it.
 
I agree, consistency. The box of chocolates version of Tannehill needs to disappear. I really hope he can string together the next several weeks with solid (if not spectacular) performances.
 
DolfanISS said:
I'm with Junc as unpopular as that might be but the ability to make plays that need to be made are a big deal to me. I also like consistency, invisible halves don't cut it.
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Bumpus said:
I use the "heart attack" method ... It's not very scientific, but I base my analysis upon how often he gives me chest pains during the course of any given week. :idk:
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Kinda like a "Trick or Treat" method. :)
 
Wins and loses is my main measuring stick. Got to get more of the first...
 
I mostly just watch football and try to form an opinion based on watching the players actually play.

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That said, I was looking at which metrics correlate most strongly to winning, and the best I've found is the touchdown to interception rate differential. That is, the percentage of passes that are intercepted, subtracted from the percentage of passes that result in scores. If you match that up with regular season wins, you'll find that it's more closely associated with with winning games than other stats people really like, such as yards per attempt.

Ryan Tannehill currently sits with a rate differential of 2.1, which is not elite, but it's certainly not bad. It puts him just outside of the fringes of the top 1/3 of all quarterback performances over the past ten years. It puts him firmly in 2012-2013 Andy Dalton territory. Not an elite performance by any stretch, but certainly well within the margins for a good quarterback.

My personal opinion is that he's the guy. I don't see how you invest so much time in a guy that you knew was behind the curve coming out of school, handicap him with garbage weapons (year one) and garbage pass protection (year two) and garbage coaching (years one and two), and then decide to cut bait on him when he goes out and performs well within the bounds of acceptable quarterback play for a 9-10 win season.

But that's just me.


P.S. Andy Dalton still ****ing blows.
 
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