He doesn’t have a weak arm he has an erratic arm which looks worse in bad weather
He is also terrible at situational football and is one of the poorer QBs at holding onto the football
He is a dangerous RB but has no quick twitch and gets lit up on occasion - which should spell for a shorter career
Been browsing this forum this past week. You in particular seem to be the most vocal non-believer in Allen. I expect to see that to a degree on a rival fan forum. But your criticism of Allen seem to border the lines of reality and just plain denial. At this point, and to Allen's credit because he had to put in the effort as he was far from a finished product when he came into the league, the question is not is Allen a good QB? We already know he is. The question is will he be a legit top 5 QB throughout his career. Or will he play at a top 3 level for stretches but revert back to a top 10-12 QB?
My biggest reason for optimism for Allen is the following:
Josh Allen career QB rating's with each season split into halves:
2018- Games 1-6: 61.8
2018- Games 7-12: 72.6
2019- Games 1-8: 82.9
2019- Games 9-15: 88.8
2020- Games 1-8: 102.4
2020- Game #9 138.5
Allen was possibly the biggest project QB ever taken in the top 10 of an NFL draft. Viewed as the most, "needs time to sit and learn" QB to ever go in the top 10. The whole, sit thing didn't happen. We have Pick 6 Peterman to thank for that. But Allen has certainly been learning with every game. The numbers don't lie. That's 36 games. And consistent improvement throughout.
I've seen you quote his turnovers through his first 36 games. He has 36 total, 26 Ints and 10 fumbles lost. He also has 71 total TD's over this time period, 49 passing and 22 rushing. That's a 2:1 TD to turnover ratio. Those are the numbers for his entire 36 game career. We know his TD to turnover numbers are on a consistent upward trajectory based on his half season split progressions. Dating back to week one of last season Allen is at 39 total TD's and 12 turnovers. That's a sample size of 17 games and various offensive personnel and opponents.
I also find it somewhat ironic that a Dolphins fans would deny that Allen is a good QB. Allen's total stat lines against the Dolphins through his short career are things of make believe.
As for some of the points you made in your previous post.
1. Not sure we have an appropriate sample size to really say Allen's erratic arm is worst in bad weather. We also have to question if he even has an erratic arm anymore just based on his play from this season alone.
2. I don't have a big argument with you on this one. Although I would say his hero ball mentality is not necessarily a fatal flaw. No doubt it will bite us Bills fans in the butt big time multiple times through his long career. But also no doubt, it will win us many games that should not have been victories.
3. Calling him a dangerous RB is just an insult given the numbers he's put up and the development he has made. No quick twitch? Not that it even matters because at the end of the day everyone should agree that he's one hell of an athlete, but I'm not sure I agree with that. I think what your eyes see, and mine as well is that he does not move like a Kyler Murray or Tua. But that makes sense. Allen has 5 inches on Tua and 7 on Kyler. He's not going to move with the same agility as those guys. But compare him to Cam or better yet Wentz. Allen has more "fast twitch" and is more agile than both those guys IMO.
Anyway, end of my rant. Couldn't help but chime in. What's with the schedule makers not airing any early CBS games this week? Was really looking forward to actually getting to watch Tua play this week but won't be able to since the Bills will be playing at the same time.
Hopefully with the same head to head results but hey if the roles are reversed and Allen ends up with the accolades of Marino I won't complain.
