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I am not one to ever bash coaches but this one was bad, 3rd and 2 in two down territory and you dont call a run, all game the running attack has clicked and the passing game has been average at best and you dont call a run? What the hell is going on in the mind of this guy. Those damn reverses didnt do a thing. Run the ball up the middle all day and Miami wins that game. While I admit Gus is awful and must go, this loss is on Scotty.
 
While I love Saban and Linehan and believe they are the right guys in the right place for us, I put this loss on them. Sure, Gus threw the INT, but he should NOT have been throwing on that play. We had been pushing their @$$e$ down the field the whole drive. Also, why oh why, when we have a momentum building drive, does Linehan call for a damn reverse, or triple reverse, or backwards pass/forward pass trickery. Correct me if i'm wrong, but, aren't these kind of plays called upon when nothing you are doing offensively is working? Why run them when you don't have to and then lose 5-10 yards and kill all momentum. I blame Saban for that. He has the ability to override those kind of calls and should, especially when we have drives that are clicking. You live and learn and hopefully these guys learn from this. I have faith in them both.
 
I thought the same thing when I watched it.
 
wow you have got to be KIDDING me if you guys think the sole reason we lost was cuz of that one playcall. it was a bad call, but lets not forget the falcons DOMINATED us and we got a bunch of nice breaks to just be in it that late.


lets also not forget that our defense did not play THAT well (played worse than the scoreboard, thats for sure). if they stopped even some of those crucial 3rd downs, we would of got the ball back with more oppurtunities and with better field position.

you can put this one on the defense, the qb, offensive playcalling, and defensive playcalling...not just a single person
 
Atila said:
wow you have got to be KIDDING me if you guys think the sole reason we lost was cuz of that one playcall. it was a bad call, but lets not forget the falcons DOMINATED us and we got a bunch of nice breaks to just be in it that late.


lets also not forget that our defense did not play THAT well (played worse than the scoreboard, thats for sure). if they stopped even some of those crucial 3rd downs, we would of got the ball back with more oppurtunities and with better field position.

you can put this one on the defense, the qb, offensive playcalling, and defensive playcalling...not just a single person
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There are always going to be a handful of plays in a game that are going to decide the game one way or another, but, coming from someone that was at the stadium, trust me, they did NOT DOMINATE US! Also, yes, I can boil it down to that one play, because that one play more than any other in the game, lead to the loss. The odds of us converting that on 3rd or even 4th down, seeing as how it was 4 down territory, were MUCH better than they were passing in that situation. Again, of course there were other plays throughout the game that could have aided in the loss, but, none of them were as crucial as a 3rd and 2 from the 8 yard line. Don't forget, we also got two VERY BOGUS personal foul/late hit penalties that were about as comical as any i've seen and I NEVER complain about the officials, but, when Vick is still a yard in bounds and gets this @$$ knocked four yards out of bounds, that is NOT a penalty, unless of course, it's against Vick apparently. Funny, I saw highlights of the same exact situation against Chris Simms today, and guess what, no penalty. That was on a 3rd down play if i'm not mistaken and he did NOT get the 1st down. But, the drive continues, and they score a TD.
 
Listen like i've typed in here 3 times already. The running game is working and you are down by 7 with 9 minutes left. then you call 3 pass plays?

WTF??

The last play of the game was just typical of the whole game. Not enough running, defense on the field too long. good for them to step up in the 4th when they were probably dog tired.
 
Like i said before

LINEHAN WOULD BE THE BEST OFFENSIVE CO if he was coaching in highschool

Stupid trick plays!
 
linehan is a middle of the road offensive coordinator. he's incredibly imaginative and he's a reckless gambler. His style is good enough to take a team, given the right talent, to the championship game. However that style will never get you into the Super Bowl. The only exception to this rule that I have seen is Mike Martz's Rams when they won it all. His teams will always self destruct in playoff games when the defenses are too well disciplined to fall for his creative play calling. He's probably the next coach of Minnesota so I dont think he'll be with us next year and with him gone so will Gus - hopefully
 
I always thought the reverse was supposed to be a "trick play". Seems we get at least 1 a quarter the past 2 or 3 weeks.
Linehan got to cute/fancy on the 3rd and 2 (other parts of the game also). The running was working, go with it. Dont make the game harder then it is, Barnes at FB, Brown or Williams at RB, and punch the Falcons in the mouth, and get the first down. It started to look like Saban was getting what he wants, a physical team. Then when the big chance to show it, they go finesse. A bad weekend. First Bill Callahan continues his destruction of my Cornhuskers, and now this type of loss today. :(
 
dolfan305 said:
run run run run run run run run
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Yeah...that'll win you the game. Great strategy. Do exactly what they think we're going to do, even though they stack the line with 9 guys...hey, so what...our 5 or 6 guys can block them no problem. Jees.
 
oxman85 said:
Those damn reverses didnt do a thing.
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No, they'll work at the right time when you don't run them over...and over...and over...and over...and over...and over...you get the idea...

A reverse will bust open for good yardage now and then but calling the play constantly will just have teams looking for it and it'll lose it's effect and just be another play teams know that you run and will stuff you for calling it so often.
 
You all are making it sound like offensive coordinating is easy..Linehan to me is doing perfectly fine with what he has to work with..
 
Joneal7 said:
You all are making it sound like offensive coordinating is easy..Linehan to me is doing perfectly fine with what he has to work with..
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I for one am not saying it is easy, I am saying dont make it harder then it has to be. On the 7, 2 downs to get 2 yards, 2 running backs averaging over 5 yards a carry. Plenty of time left, and all 3 timeouts left.
I agree for the most part Linehan has done a decent job, to a good job in a few of the games. In a earlier post today I said, the coaches know a 100xs more then we do. Sometimes though, you can think too much, and I think on a couple of occasions he was thinking too much.
 
HuskerFin said:
I for one am not saying it is easy, I am saying dont make it harder then it has to be. On the 7, 2 downs to get 2 yards, 2 running backs averaging over 5 yards a carry. Plenty of time left, and all 3 timeouts left.
I agree for the most part Linehan has done a decent job, to a good job in a few of the games. In a earlier post today I said, the coaches know a 100xs more then we do. Sometimes though, you can think too much, and I think on a couple of occasions he was thinking too much.
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That's exactly the problem with Linehan. He outthinks himself. Look at the most succesful coaches - Parcells, Gibbs, Bellichik - the first half of the game is the game plan that they came in with, the second half is andjustment to what's working and what's not. The running game was clearly working and when it counted most we went away from what was working and tried to outsmart them only to have it blow up in our faces
 
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