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Remember when the Cleveland Browns were the biggest threat to take quarterback Ryan Tannehill from the Miami Dolphins? Well, longtime Browns writer Tony Grossi reports that Tannehill wasn't a strong consideration for the team. The Browns simply had too many questions about the former Texas A&M quarterback.

"Ryan Tannehill had the size and the arm, but his maturity as a quarterback and field leader were so lacking that he turned [the Browns] off in personal interviews," Grossi reported. "He didn't project as a leader."

Keep in mind this is reportedly one team's evaluation of Tannehill. Cleveland, which held the No. 4 pick and traded up to No. 3 to draft tailback Trent Richardson, didn't feel Tannehill was ready for the NFL. The Browns also drafted 28-year-old Brandon Weeden later in the first round, who is considered more NFL ready.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/43185/browns-questioned-tannehills-leadership

Mike H. felt this way, the QB guru from GB to Seattle to Cleveland, and we're using the same pike line with a different opinion. Interesting.
 
insomnia411 said:
Lol, yeah. That miserable team beat us last year. Remember?
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We'll see who turns out to be right, but I'd rather take the opinion of the winning NFL coach who actually coached him than the one who didn't and was thrilled last season to steal away Colt McCoy. Granted, he mostly did go after and secure Hasselbeck who was pretty damn good through most of his seahawks tenure, but before that happened, he did ride with John Kitna for 2 years. I'm by no means taking his opinion lightly, but then again, he's not the only one with a professional point of reference, and there's no one who knows T/Hill as well as as "the other guy" who just happens to be our OC.
 
Tannehill probably isn't as NFL ready as a field general and leader as Weeden, but they wanted someone right away where as it appears the Dolphins are willing to take time to develop him. The question isn't who is NFL ready for this year but who will be the best long-term QB. My hope is Tannehill is the answer.
 
There may be a ring of truth to this as far as what they really feel, however they're making a concerted effort to consolidate support for Brandon Weeden.

Weeden came into rookie camp and OTAs as advertised, impressing everyone with his pure accuracy, timing, throwing ability, mental processing and leadership. They had intended to let Weeden win the job in training camp, but now that is speeding up significantly and there's been a change from a "competition" language, to the Sam Bradford model. The Sam Bradford model involved declaring Sam the starter pretty much right at the kickoff of training camp. They're trying to tap dance around their initial talk about "competition" by claiming that what they really wanted to see was Brandon Weeden come onto the field and "show" that he is who they thought they were drafting in the 1st round. It's a subtle move from a language standpoint but it's actually a pretty significant move. Essentially, whatever "competition" they intended, Brandon Weeden already won it, and so now they're shifting everything in the organization, media and fan base to line up behind the guy.

Part of that is a concerted effort to downplay their interest in other quarterbacks. They didn't just trash talk Tannehill. They said RG3 is "too small" and "too eager to show how fast he can run". They downplayed their interest in trading up for him, saying they only called up the Rams to say they tried, but RG3 was not who they really wanted. They said Matt Flynn is as short as Colt McCoy and has the same "pop gun" arm. And then that's when they said what they said about Ryan Tannehill.

Things are moving more quickly with Brandon Weeden there than even they imagined, so they're just trying to get everyone in line. It's a love fest. Any minute the MPAA is going to label the Cleveland Browns and Brandon Weeden NC-17. They're getting pretty worked up about him.

Part of me is jealous. I don't think Ryan Tannehill is going to be as inspirational in Miami as Weeden is in Cleveland.
 
No story in my opinion. Who do you trust more, the front office that sat down for a few interviews with Tannehill or the one that has his college head coach of four years on the coaching staff? Miami had WAY more information on Tannehill than the Browns did, so really a non-story. Holmgren has already dafted one failed quarterback in Cleveland, so he is not perfect in his evaluations.
 
Yeah like Cleveland's track record for drafting QB's is stellar, cough*Tim Couch*cough...excuse me.
 
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I find it funny that everyone is on this warpath to label Cleveland a joke in their quarterback evaluations. Yeah, cough cough Tim Couch. Well, cough cough Chad Henne cough cough Daunte Culpepper cough cough John Beck cough cough Pat White cough cough A.J. Feeley.

Get a grip guys. It's a difference of opinion, and it's not entirely off base. Ryan Tannehill does not come off like a confident leader when you get in a room with him. I think Nublar7 brings up a valid point though, you need to see him in his more natural football environs because that's when you start to see the leadership come out more. You just look at him in that Gruden session when they get out on the field and there he is he's taking USF wide receivers under his wing and teaching them how to run the pro style route that Gruden wants to see. That wasn't forced. Gruden wanted to see the dino route and the receivers had no idea how to run it, and who between Gruden and Tannehill was in better position (and shape) to show them how to run it? Tannehill. So he did. That was leadership.
 
He probably 'layed down' in the interview, so they WOULDN'T be interested!
 
1. We had a wealth of knowledge on the guy so could make a much more educated guess on his intangibles. If we didn't trust his intangibles then we would have likely not drafted him. Cleveland had a terribly small window of time to make several snap judgements to try and draft him at a much higher position than us. It is certainly possible that Cleveland had those reservations on Tannehill. It doesn't mean that they were correct. It doesn't mean that he won't grow into the role.

2. CK's scenario about the politics of lining up behind Weeden is probably why we are seeing this info surface now.
 
Nublar7 said:
No story in my opinion. Who do you trust more, the front office that sat down for a few interviews with Tannehill or the one that has his college head coach of four years on the coaching staff? Miami had WAY more information on Tannehill than the Browns did, so really a non-story. Holmgren has already dafted one failed quarterback in Cleveland, so he is not perfect in his evaluations.
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What worries me is that the Packers fell apart when Mike Sherman was given personnel control.
 
Makes it even more embarrassing the Dolphins haven't beaten the Browns the last few times they've played
 
ckparrothead said:
I find it funny that everyone is on this warpath to label Cleveland a joke in their quarterback evaluations. Yeah, cough cough Tim Couch. Well, cough cough Chad Henne cough cough Daunte Culpepper cough cough John Beck cough cough Pat White cough cough A.J. Feeley.
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I said excuse me!
 
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