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I wouldn't be so sure of that. Usually it takes about 3 seasons to know what you really have in a quarterback. Happened with Josh Allen and even our very own Tua. Wilson will be just fine, which is unfortunate for us as Dolphin fans.
Did you watch the game? Dumb question - you're a BYU homer. He's simply far too slow at reading the Defense and the net effect is that he gets sacked a lot. The cute photogenic smile only goes so far when you lead the Jets offense to a grand total of 2 yards in the second half. He doesn't appear to have the ability to play in the NFL. He's worse than Sam Darnold.
 
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Did you watch the game? Dumb question - you're a BYU homer. He's simply far too slow at reading the Defense and the net effect is that he gets sacked a lot. The cute photogenic smile only goes so far when you lead the Jets offense to a grand total of 2 yards in the second half. He doesn't appear to have the ability to play in the NFL. He's worse than Sam Darnold.
yes he is. Tua showed much more with much worse talent around him than zach wilson has so far. Zach should show much more now, he has good wrs, good rbs, a damn good defense. He is worse than sam darnold and he doesn't have the mental make up to be that type of franchise qb they want. Maturity is huge and accountabilty, the dude is straight up in denial.
 
Is what real? An NFL offense only netting 2 yards in a half?

Yep, sure happened. And, yes, that’s not easy to do. Gotta achieve a very high level of suckatude. Despite the number of bad teams and bad offenses, it doesn’t happen often.
Ejay, yes, that was my question. that is as one of our posters stated, offensive even to Dog shi$!.

As bad as they were ffensively, they still should have punted that to the sideline or out of bounce and lived for OT. God that was a bad NFL game.
 
It's a two horse race, and for what feels like an eternity, we have as good a chance as ever to take the afc east and a top 1/2 playoff spot. On top of this, as many of you have said, the Jets and patriots are still looking for their franchise qb, which will hold them back for years to come. Damn it feels good to be a dolphins fan.

Chiefs are definitely a concern though, they have bad teams in their division, going to be tough for miami to come out as a #1 seed in the AFC
 
You know, I think many are giving the Jets too hard of a time here.

You know, at one point in the early 4th, the Jets had 3 yards of total offense in the 2nd half


Kinda makes you look at that 2 yards In a whole new light huh?
 
Did you watch the game? Dumb question - you're a BYU homer. He's simply far too slow at reading the Defense and the net effect is that he gets sacked a lot. The cute photogenic smile only goes so far when you lead the Jets offense to a grand total of 2 yards in the second half. He doesn't appear to have the ability to play in the NFL. He's worse than Sam Darnold.
FWIW, reading defenses and processing the information are the thing a QB improves in going into his 3rd and 4th seasons -- that's when the game is supposed to "slow down." It's also often what filters out the college quarterbacks from the real NFL quarterbacks, so he very well may never make the reads or process the game quickly enough to cut it at this level.

Just based on a cursory glance at Wilson's numbers, he really hasn't shown much in terms of passing yardage or scores. The story on him seems to be getting sacked, and when he isn't getting sacked he's completing passes to players in the wrong jerseys. That wouldn't mean much except that he isn't showing much progress. Allen's first two seasons weren't anything to write about, either, but he at least showed progress in year 2.

Still, the rule of thumb is to not really pay attention to the stats until year 3. Getting sacked 40ish times is not that big of a deal. Allen got sacked 38 times in his second season and still only passed for 20 TD.
 
Jets all over the forums etc are making threads about what qbs they could draft or FA next year. They are over ZAchary Wilson lol
 
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Usually it takes about 3 seasons to know what you really have in a quarterback. Happened with Josh Allen and even our very own Tua. Wilson will be just fine, which is unfortunate for us as Dolphin fans.
Are you a Russian AI bot or something?

No way this is a real take.
 
FWIW, reading defenses and processing the information are the thing a QB improves in going into his 3rd and 4th seasons -- that's when the game is supposed to "slow down." It's also often what filters out the college quarterbacks from the real NFL quarterbacks, so he very well may never make the reads or process the game quickly enough to cut it at this level.

Just based on a cursory glance at Wilson's numbers, he really hasn't shown much in terms of passing yardage or scores. The story on him seems to be getting sacked, and when he isn't getting sacked he's completing passes to players in the wrong jerseys. That wouldn't mean much except that he isn't showing much progress. Allen's first two seasons weren't anything to write about, either, but he at least showed progress in year 2.

Still, the rule of thumb is to not really pay attention to the stats until year 3. Getting sacked 40ish times is not that big of a deal. Allen got sacked 38 times in his second season and still only passed for 20 TD.
You don't wait until Year 3 with a guy who has had a grand total of ZERO good games in his entire NFL career. You wait to see young QBs start to string together their good games with more consistency. You don't wait when there are zero good games to replicate.

His numbers are worse than Manziel, Jamarcus Russell, etc and the ONLY QB in like the last 20 years that he's better than in EPA/p was Josh Rosen.

Zach Wilson is going to go down as one of the biggest busts in NFL history and he's not even good enough to be one of those career backup guys.

He legit sucks and it's unfortunate because I was hoping that he'd show enough progress to where the Jets would waste another year with him, but he's making it too easy for them to dump him.
 
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