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Travis34 said:
I feel like this is the only thing that makes sense. It would be some real douchery to mess with Tunsil's position now. Asking the new guy, Williams, to try a new position is kind of a dick move too... but it would be best for us. and what hoops said makes sense too, maybe if we pay him through the roof.... as a RT. But then we have LT to worry about it resigning
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He isn’t making a ton of money now which could be part of the problem, but apparently it’s more related to the fact that he doesn’t trust the medical staff ( re an issue he had with a benign growth on his head and other players who have had issues).

He basically said he wont play for them again. It still doesn’t seem logical he would be willing to move to the right side so.. can’t see it us if he is traded.
 
re: Tunsil -- Keep this in mind... if we do actually end up getting Tua, a lefty, right tackle becomes more premium than left tackle for us.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
Wait, you think Eli Manning is good at football?
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:lol:

Not only do I think Eli is a first ballot HoFer, but I truly feel indebted to him and the entire Giants organization for what they did for our Dolphins (17-0!).

Phillip Rivers imo is overrated just like Matt Ryan, stat guys who fold in the big moment, to me the NFL is all about performing in big moments (e.g playoffs).
 
Albert Romano said:
He isn’t making a ton of money now which could be part of the problem, but apparently it’s more related to the fact that he doesn’t trust the medical staff ( re an issue he had with a benign growth on his head and other players who have had issues).

He basically said he wont play for them again. It still doesn’t seem logical he would be willing to move to the right side so.. can’t see it us if he is traded.
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I think he ends up going to the Texans personally.

But yeah if theres another medical department with not the greatest rap.... its us lol
 
TannDaMan17 said:
:lol:

Not only do I think Eli is a first ballot HoFer, but I truly feel indebted to him and the entire Giants organization for what they did for our Dolphins (17-0!).

Phillip Rivers imo is overrated just like Matt Ryan, stat guys who fold in the big moment, to me the NFL is all about performing in big moments (e.g playoffs).
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That's a weird way to look at it because then you'd have to consider guys like Flacco much better than they really are purely based on a small sample size.

Wasn't Peyton considered a choker for a long time based purely on what he did in the playoff games?

I'd rather have the guy who gets me to the playoffs consistently than the guy who is only really good for a couple games after the rest of my team got him there.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
That's a weird way to look at it because then you'd have to consider guys like Flacco much better than they really are purely based on a small sample size.

Wasn't Peyton considered a choker for a long time based purely on what he did in the playoff games?

I'd rather have the guy who gets me to the playoffs consistently than the guy who is only really good for a couple games after the rest of my team got him there.
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Dude I've gotta get to work, but I'll just leave it at what I've said before.

Generally baseball is a game where statistics matter (Go Nats!), football is not imo.
 
TannDaMan17 said:
Dude I've gotta get to work, but I'll just leave it at what I've said before.

Generally baseball is a game where statistics matter (Go Nats!), football is not imo.
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So Eli Manning is a better quarterback than Dan Marino now?
 
Texans and Trent Williams makes a lot of sense.

That team could give up its 1 and not feel like they were mortgaging their future with it.

The future is now in Houston
 
Seems to me there is a lot of mixing and matching going on right now with the OL. They are giving everyone at shot with the ones at each position. Tunsil is not even playing in the scrimmage (or PS1). Dieter is getting a long look at LG but not just a look, he's getting needed reps so he can advance. Center belongs to Kilgore but they want competition and a backup to emerge for when we need it. RG is ongoing. RT seems to belong to Davis even though other guys have been getting looks.

I would not be surprised to see Holden and Mills cut when we go to 53 and replaced with potential upgrades. Prince is probably going to the PS.

If you were to rank them right now, we would probably end up two-deep at LT before you got to your 5th best starter. Just based on what I've read/seen.

1 Tunsil
2 Kilgore
3 Davis
4 Dieter
5 Sterup
6 Reed
7 Jones-Smith
8 Anyone else

That's 3 LT's but you can't keep that many unless they can also play the right side and I'm not sure about Jones-Smith flexibility.

Most of the second teamers have been struggling big time. I think there are two or three players that will end up on the 53 by week 2 that are not even on the team yet. With any luck a guy with some versatility who can displace the future RG as a starter.

Right now we are a bottom 5-6 OL but when injuries strike we will be in serious trouble. Like record setting sacks allowed trouble.

Projected starters still look like Tunsil, Dieter, Kilgore, Reed, Davis. They will probably get them set for the 3rd PS game barring a surprise.
 
Eesti said:
Seems to me there is a lot of mixing and matching going on right now with the OL. They are giving everyone at shot with the ones at each position. Tunsil is not even playing in the scrimmage (or PS1). Dieter is getting a long look at LG but not just a look, he's getting needed reps so he can advance. Center belongs to Kilgore but they want competition and a backup to emerge for when we need it. RG is ongoing. RT seems to belong to Davis even though other guys have been getting looks.

I would not be surprised to see Holden and Mills cut when we go to 53 and replaced with potential upgrades. Prince is probably going to the PS.

If you were to rank them right now, we would probably end up two-deep at LT before you got to your 5th best starter. Just based on what I've read/seen.

1 Tunsil
2 Kilgore
3 Davis
4 Dieter
5 Sterup
6 Reed
7 Jones-Smith
8 Anyone else

That's 3 LT's but you can't keep that many unless they can also play the right side and I'm not sure about Jones-Smith flexibility.

Most of the second teamers have been struggling big time. I think there are two or three players that will end up on the 53 by week 2 that are not even on the team yet. With any luck a guy with some versatility who can displace the future RG as a starter.

Right now we are a bottom 5-6 OL but when injuries strike we will be in serious trouble. Like record setting sacks allowed trouble.

Projected starters still look like Tunsil, Dieter, Kilgore, Reed, Davis. They will probably get them set for the 3rd PS game barring a surprise.
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Calhoun is looking better. I think he makes the 53.
 
Eesti said:
Seems to me there is a lot of mixing and matching going on right now with the OL. They are giving everyone at shot with the ones at each position. Tunsil is not even playing in the scrimmage (or PS1). Dieter is getting a long look at LG but not just a look, he's getting needed reps so he can advance. Center belongs to Kilgore but they want competition and a backup to emerge for when we need it. RG is ongoing. RT seems to belong to Davis even though other guys have been getting looks.

I would not be surprised to see Holden and Mills cut when we go to 53 and replaced with potential upgrades. Prince is probably going to the PS.

If you were to rank them right now, we would probably end up two-deep at LT before you got to your 5th best starter. Just based on what I've read/seen.

1 Tunsil
2 Kilgore
3 Davis
4 Dieter
5 Sterup
6 Reed
7 Jones-Smith
8 Anyone else

That's 3 LT's but you can't keep that many unless they can also play the right side and I'm not sure about Jones-Smith flexibility.

Most of the second teamers have been struggling big time. I think there are two or three players that will end up on the 53 by week 2 that are not even on the team yet. With any luck a guy with some versatility who can displace the future RG as a starter.

Right now we are a bottom 5-6 OL but when injuries strike we will be in serious trouble. Like record setting sacks allowed trouble.

Projected starters still look like Tunsil, Dieter, Kilgore, Reed, Davis. They will probably get them set for the 3rd PS game barring a surprise.
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Even if we have a bad offensive line, if we get close to a sacks record then I want the coaching staff fired because they have no business coaching if they don't know how to play around the offensive line being bad.

You can help mitigate that kind of stuff with misdirections, hard counts, 3 step drops, screens etc. Our offense will still suffer obviously because the defense just moves up, but it should at the very minimum keep your QB from getting killed.
 
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