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Heya Green...where do you get DVOA and Net EPA from? I used to use footballoutsiders but they got smoked.
Yeah, such a shame FootballOutsiders got bought out then destroyed. Aaron Schatz of FO is now at FTNfantasy.com, with team DVOA's updated Tuesdays, and free. The rest is behind a paywall, and less articles...but it's something. Rbsdm.com and Nfeloapp.com are good for EPA's. Also random twitter feeds and such.

Just noticed Tua's total EPA is double or more every qb, but Brock Purdy, and he's almost double Purdy. That won't last, but it's amazing.
 
Yeah, such a shame FootballOutsiders got bought out then destroyed. Aaron Schatz of FO is now at FTNfantasy.com, with team DVOA's updated Tuesdays, and free. The rest is behind a paywall, and less articles...but it's something. Rbsdm.com and Nfeloapp.com are good for EPA's. Also random twitter feeds and such.

Just noticed Tua's total EPA is double or more every qb, but Brock Purdy, and he's almost double Purdy. That won't last, but it's amazing.
Thanks much...that's interesting on the EPA. Supports what I've been saying that most here disagree with...Purdy's good, I think he's better than Brady was at that stage.
 
again what are they missing ? They do not want to except facts..we Have to beat the Bills this week.View attachment 151581

Based only on the information above it looks like we have a 2:1 advantage over the Bills, and if Mostert has a good day we could have a 3:1 advantage over the Bills.

Does that mean we could go 60-20 and Win?
What a good idea that is. Thanks for the "dream" fodder. - LOL
 
Fun Fact: rumor has it our very own @Jamesw starred in a few movies including an Eastwood flick or two.

Now you know he is the chick magnet he is. Even my Mrs got all fluttery eyes in his presence...
My hot step mom was in need of an optical check up that night. or maybe it was the alcohol.
Mr. Eastwood is an icon. A true master of his craft (acting and directing) who is kind to the cast and crew.
 
Thank you. Exactly correct. Three points for the home team is a passe reference that should have been overtaken a long time ago, along with the notion that pointspreads are simply designed to balance the action.

Somehow both retain staying power, due to overwhelming popularity of conventional wisdom.

Weeks from now and years from now both will be matter of factly supplied, no matter how outdated or flat out wrong. I do appreciate that threads like this now contain increasing number of counter corrective versions, such as yours.

* A pointspread is absolutely a prediction of the outcome. That's why money lines and team totals directly source from the pointspread, which is established first. Does anyone actually believe that oddsmakers would allow plus return on the Dolphins money line, if they weren't predicting Buffalo to win the game? Just step back and look at the big picture once in a while. Immense clarity.

* Pointspreads source from blended power ratings. Nothing else. The oddsmakers don't care about matchups or series history or virtually any variable that makes its way into fan forums. There is no time for subjective garbage and distraction, given all the sports they book on a daily basis. They steal numerous sets of reputable power ratings and the consensus spits out the number, once home field (if any) is assigned.

* College home field remains 3 points, and higher in some instances. The NFL was down to 2.3 more than a decade ago and now it has dropped further to 2.0 territory. Road teams thrived during the 2020 pandemic season without fans and the trend has mostly continued. Check this link to Jeff Sagarin's NFL power ratings. You'll note above that he specifies to add 2 points to the home team. Not 3, it is 2. If you check his college football power ratings page, that home assignment remains 3:


* Those Sagarin numbers provide insight toward this pointspread. He's still got Buffalo's power rating .9 above Miami. Most power ratings I've looked at are similar. Those numbers along with the home field produce this number, in the 2.5 to 3 range. Not exactly complicated. Power ratings move slowly. If the public were involved they'd move like a freight train and it would be a weekly picnic, like Colorado favored over Alabama.

***

Two weeks ago this spread was Buffalo -4.5. Last week it was -3.5. Those are not minor moves. It is immense accelerating respect toward the Dolphins. And when the season wins over/under was compiled during the offseason, this number would have been slotted into the formula in territory of Buffalo -6. All the Miami future numbers have been adjusted along those lines. I never get carried away and am a believer in everything drifts back to the beginning. However, this scenario does not own those vulnerabilities, not to typical degree. Points scored in the NFL is the ultimate trump card. You can basically ignore everything else in deference to likelihood of reaching 24+, or 27+, and the kingmaker 31+.

Last season I wanted every play over the middle. That's the cheat code in this sport, at all levels. It's so laughable to watch these 3rd down designs of floaters down the sideline. Miami owns ridiculous margin simply via McDaniel's understanding to window dress one design after another when all it's going to be is yet another dagger over the middle.

I still think he gets too cute once in a while and strays. But this year the flank material has greater variety and premise.

I'm still bothered by what happens if Tua is forced into a drop back game. Fortunately not many defenses are capable of that level or even aspire to it.

Mostly I'm concerned that every favorite team championship of my lifetime has included championship caliber personnel, even if upstart like the '83 Canes. This Dolphins defense has so many marginal pieces. It was awesome to finally get rid of Noah but a proactive franchise would have already taken similar steps with Raekwon and a few others.

Miss your posts!!
 
My hot step mom was in need of an optical check up that night. or maybe it was the alcohol.
Mr. Eastwood is an icon. A true master of his craft (acting and directing) who is kind to the cast and crew.
Actually could have been your singing that got her all moist...in the eyes.
 
Based only on the information above it looks like we have a 2:1 advantage over the Bills, and if Mostert has a good day we could have a 3:1 advantage over the Bills.

Does that mean we could go 60-20 and Win?
What a good idea that is. Thanks for the "dream" fodder. - LOL
Just play the game already! I'm bummed out because I'll miss the game and the fins aren't on TV that much, my wife set up a lunch with a friend. I might get to see the second half.
 
Thank you. Exactly correct. Three points for the home team is a passe reference that should have been overtaken a long time ago, along with the notion that pointspreads are simply designed to balance the action.

Somehow both retain staying power, due to overwhelming popularity of conventional wisdom.

Weeks from now and years from now both will be matter of factly supplied, no matter how outdated or flat out wrong. I do appreciate that threads like this now contain increasing number of counter corrective versions, such as yours.

* A pointspread is absolutely a prediction of the outcome. That's why money lines and team totals directly source from the pointspread, which is established first. Does anyone actually believe that oddsmakers would allow plus return on the Dolphins money line, if they weren't predicting Buffalo to win the game? Just step back and look at the big picture once in a while. Immense clarity.

* Pointspreads source from blended power ratings. Nothing else. The oddsmakers don't care about matchups or series history or virtually any variable that makes its way into fan forums. There is no time for subjective garbage and distraction, given all the sports they book on a daily basis. They steal numerous sets of reputable power ratings and the consensus spits out the number, once home field (if any) is assigned.

* College home field remains 3 points, and higher in some instances. The NFL was down to 2.3 more than a decade ago and now it has dropped further to 2.0 territory. Road teams thrived during the 2020 pandemic season without fans and the trend has mostly continued. Check this link to Jeff Sagarin's NFL power ratings. You'll note above that he specifies to add 2 points to the home team. Not 3, it is 2. If you check his college football power ratings page, that home assignment remains 3:


* Those Sagarin numbers provide insight toward this pointspread. He's still got Buffalo's power rating .9 above Miami. Most power ratings I've looked at are similar. Those numbers along with the home field produce this number, in the 2.5 to 3 range. Not exactly complicated. Power ratings move slowly. If the public were involved they'd move like a freight train and it would be a weekly picnic, like Colorado favored over Alabama.

***

Two weeks ago this spread was Buffalo -4.5. Last week it was -3.5. Those are not minor moves. It is immense accelerating respect toward the Dolphins. And when the season wins over/under was compiled during the offseason, this number would have been slotted into the formula in territory of Buffalo -6. All the Miami future numbers have been adjusted along those lines. I never get carried away and am a believer in everything drifts back to the beginning. However, this scenario does not own those vulnerabilities, not to typical degree. Points scored in the NFL is the ultimate trump card. You can basically ignore everything else in deference to likelihood of reaching 24+, or 27+, and the kingmaker 31+.

Last season I wanted every play over the middle. That's the cheat code in this sport, at all levels. It's so laughable to watch these 3rd down designs of floaters down the sideline. Miami owns ridiculous margin simply via McDaniel's understanding to window dress one design after another when all it's going to be is yet another dagger over the middle.

I still think he gets too cute once in a while and strays. But this year the flank material has greater variety and premise.

I'm still bothered by what happens if Tua is forced into a drop back game. Fortunately not many defenses are capable of that level or even aspire to it.

Mostly I'm concerned that every favorite team championship of my lifetime has included championship caliber personnel, even if upstart like the '83 Canes. This Dolphins defense has so many marginal pieces. It was awesome to finally get rid of Noah but a proactive franchise would have already taken similar steps with Raekwon and a few others.
Not only is home field advantage not a standard 3 points across the board for every team but its not a static number throughout the season for teams. Take Buffalo for instance. Sharp bettors don't value Buffalo's homefield advantage in September the same as in December. They start increasing the value of Buffalo's homefield advantage as the season goes on. Back in the hay day of the Seahawks I saw some sharp bettors have their home field advantage around 3.5-4.5 points. Its wild to me that people think homefield advantage is just some standard number for all teams.
 
Keep 17 in pocket and force him to make critical mistakes. Don't let him run!!
And Russell actually played decently last week and broke contain a few times.

Playing him the week ahead of Allen IMO is a good thing. Guys better be ready to muddle rush and close down lanes
 
Honestly, I love the fact they're the favourites. First off, they're the division champs until someone knocks them off. We've got to prove it. But second, this is an opportunity to make a little bit of money. We're going to go in there and steamroll them.
Man, if we beat them like a drum the mania is going to be unreal.
 
Just play the game already! I'm bummed out because I'll miss the game and the fins aren't on TV that much, my wife set up a lunch with a friend. I might get to see the second half.
you can always reference Fin Heaven for a "hyperbolic" expose of how the game is going. - LOL
 
you can always reference Fin Heaven for a "hyperbolic" expose of how the game is going. - LOL
I avoid the gameday thread, during the game, like it's the plague...it's more irrationally emotional than a group of women talking about cheating men...
 
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