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LeBron James makes players around him better.
But in a sport with 11 on the field instead of five, can the NFL’s best defensive tackle raise the performance of his defensive teammates?
Dolphins players believe Ndamukong Suh will do just that.
“Just his presence alone, the fact the offense has to focus on him is going to free everybody else up and make everybody else better around him,” Dolphins linebacker Jelani Jenkins said last week.
As safety Reshad Jones put it: “Hopefully it will make everybody's job a lot easier when you have a dominant force like that in the middle. It makes the linebackers able to flow and run and make plays. It should be a lot easier for guys.”
So how realistic is it to expect Suh to actually boost the performance of teammates? A few points to consider:
### Detroit finished second in total defense last season, but in Suh’s first four seasons, the Lions’ defense ranked 21st (2010), 23rd, 13th and 16th. That means Detroit's defense was average to below average in three of his five seasons --- certainly not a reflection on Suh but an indication that Suh cannot mask a team's glaring defensive weaknesses.
### As far as run defense, Detroit was first last season and sixth in 2013. But in Suh’s first three seasons, the Lions were 24th, 23rd and 16th against the run.
So is Suh’s presence enough to raise Miami from 24th against the run in 2014 to top five in 2015?
“I don’t know if a top five run defense is within their grasp,” ESPN.com analyst and former Browns scout Matt Williamson said. “He will vastly improve it, so top 10 is realistic. He’s not an A plus run defender and he’s a better pass rusher than run defender, though he’s capable of being very good against the run. Last year, Detroit changed their scheme and he was better against the run. His presence will demand double teams and free up linebackers.”
### It’s notable that three current or former Lions front-seven players (George Johnson, Jason Jones, Justin Durant) were more productive playing with Suh than they were playing elsewhere, which is an encouraging sign for Miami.
Johnson, who didn’t have a sack in 11 previous career games for Minnesota and Tampa, had six for Detroit in 2014 without starting a game. The attention Suh commands was obviously a factor in that. Stephen Tulloch, a very good inside linebacker, was similarly productive with Tennessee and Detroit.
Three productive front seven defenders --- DeAndre Levy, Ezekiel Ansah and Nick Fairley --- have played only with Detroit (Fairley recently joined the Rams) --- so it’s difficult to assess whether Suh helped make them substantially better than they would have been elsewhere.
### Since he entered the league in 2010, Suh leads all defensive tackles in sacks (36), disrupted dropbacks, total snaps and is third in tackles. So is Suh worth the largest contract ever for a non quarterback (six years, $114 million)?
“He makes a great impact on the game [but] to give that much money to somebody, I want him to touch the ball,” former Dolphins and Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson said. “In today’s game, you have to score points. [But] I'm not negative toward it. He's the best in the league. The other 10 players will be that much better around him. Every team that lines up against the Dolphins must work on the scheme all week long on how they’re going to block him. Every team will have a different game plan against Miami than what they normally have.”
But former Redskins and Texans general manager Charley Casserly wonders: “How can we stay competitive paying a defensive tackle that much money? I’m not sure Earl Mitchell is a star [next to him]. Their defensive ends are undersized and that remains a problem. Linebacker remains a problem outside of Koa Misi. There are a lot more parts that just him.”
Williamson frames it this way: “You gain Suh but you also lost Jared Odrick and Randy Starks. It wasn’t like they’re nobodies. Yes, you are a lot better at defensive tackle and Tom Brady hates interior pressure.
“Is he worth that money, a $26 million cap hit next year? Nobody is worth that money [except] maybe J.J.Watt. In the end, they are going to say this is a restrictive contract.”
### The Dolphins are neither surprised nor angry with Suh for skipping much of the offseason program. Players, generally, aren’t either, though one questioned the wisdom of Suh’s decision to skip part of the on-field installation of the defense, considering he’s new here.
Dolphins president/football operations Mike Tannenbaum told WMEN-640’s Sid Rosenberg last week that “in a cap system players who take up a big part of your cap have to do more than just play well…. I challenged Ndamukong.” Tannenbaum wants him to help the team’s young players.
“We have a lot of young players not only on the defensive line, but on our team,” Tannenbaum said. “If we were sitting here in 10 years and Jordan Phillips is talking about hopefully the career he’s having, I’d love for him to say that in his formative years Ndamukong Suh impacted him.”

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Maybe Teryl Austin deserves some praise and more looks as a HC. Austin is a rising star and will be a tremendous HC very soon.
 
Suh is a great player but he alone can't take this defense to the next level. Those players that want to jump on the train of kick ass and take names on defense will make it better as a cohesive unit. This needs to be a group push if they are truly going to make a successful turn.
 
He will help a lot.
Like everyone is saying he should give the LB's a little more time before the guard gets to walk directly into them.
I hope he will help us with our blitz packages.
It seems we send 7 a good ammount of time and never get a direct pressure
 
Suh will have a pretty big impact against crap QBs and/or on teams that like to ground and pound. And against the elite or better QBs if we get a lead and force them to pass our defense will not be fun to play against for Mr. Brady. So we play against 9 QBs where our defense should be able to hold the other team to under 20, and if Tannehill is worth half of that $100 million we just gave him there should be no reason we can't go 8-1 in those games. And if we just win our home games vs the good QBs that gets us to 13-3. 13-3 is not happening for obvious reasons but with a little luck its possible, and if its good enough for the number one seed Miami will be a tough place to play in January for the cold weather teams, so a SB appearance is not an impossibility.
 
I believe the test will be how his presence and force frees up wake and vernon...you won't be able to control 3 with double teams...the linebackers will fare better because they will be able to roam more and be in position if the d-line is crushing the o-line...tight ends and linemen will not be able to get to that second level successfully or often enough...the linebackers HAVE to step up as a result..
 
Our negatives/holes on both sides of the ball are still glaring... And adding Suh is nice but we still have ZERO depth at LB... Our LB depth is so bad that even if our "starters" stay healthy we will still be bottom 5 in the league at the position, just like last year.

Excited and hopeful for our team but I can't help but notice that our least productive units last season, OL and LB, are still huge weaknesses.
 
Our negatives/holes on both sides of the ball are still glaring... And adding Suh is nice but we still have ZERO depth at LB... Our LB depth is so bad that even if our "starters" stay healthy we will still be bottom 5 in the league at the position, just like last year.

Excited and hopeful for our team but I can't help but notice that our least productive units last season, OL and LB, are still huge weaknesses.
Bro I think some of the undrafted LB'ers could make this team and push some of the starters. I don't think we are done if the right player becomes available.
 
Our negatives/holes on both sides of the ball are still glaring... And adding Suh is nice but we still have ZERO depth at LB... Our LB depth is so bad that even if our "starters" stay healthy we will still be bottom 5 in the league at the position, just like last year.

Excited and hopeful for our team but I can't help but notice that our least productive units last season, OL and LB, are still huge weaknesses.
Bro I posted this in VIP.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/all-free-agent-team-offense/

Perhaps we look at some of these players:

Offensive Tackle: Anthony Collins

One of the prized free agents in Tampa Bay’s 2014 haul, the 29-year old Collins lasted just one season with the Buccaneers, in what was his first season as a full-time starter. He fell from Pro Football Focus’ (PFF) 23rd rated offensive tackle in 2013 to 63rd in 2014. With the ability to play either tackle position, most teams would love to have him on their roster, but he is likely holding out for a starting position.

Guard: Justin Blalock

Since entering the league in 2007, Blalock has started 125 out of a possible 128 games for Atlanta, the only team he has ever played for. Released in a salary cap move, the 31-year old has been a top 30 guard the last two seasons according to PFF. He isn’t a top guard, but he could be a quality starter for a team.

Guard: Rob Sims

Sims is in a similar situation to Blalock, being 31 years old and having started 94 out of the last 96 games for Detroit and Seattle. Sims wasn’t as good according to PFF, ranking in the top 40 the past two seasons, but that is still a serviceable level. Sims is the type of guard who you can improve upon, but you could also do much worse than him.
 
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Bro I posted this in VIP.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/all-free-agent-team-offense/

Perhaps we look at some of these players:

Offensive Tackle: Anthony Collins

One of the prized free agents in Tampa Bay’s 2014 haul, the 29-year old Collins lasted just one season with the Buccaneers, in what was his first season as a full-time starter. He fell from Pro Football Focus’ (PFF) 23rd rated offensive tackle in 2013 to 63rd in 2014. With the ability to play either tackle position, most teams would love to have him on their roster, but he is likely holding out for a starting position.

Guard: Justin Blalock

Since entering the league in 2007, Blalock has started 125 out of a possible 128 games for Atlanta, the only team he has ever played for. Released in a salary cap move, the 31-year old has been a top 30 guard the last two seasons according to PFF. He isn’t a top guard, but he could be a quality starter for a team.

Guard: Rob Sims

Sims is in a similar situation to Blalock, being 31 years old and having started 94 out of the last 96 games for Detroit and Seattle. Sims wasn’t as good according to PFF, ranking in the top 40 the past two seasons, but that is still a serviceable level. Sims is the type of guard who you can improve upon, but you could also do much worse than him.


This could be a situation were they get to training camp and see how things go with what we have on the roster, kinda like the experiment we had at center last year before we made a move. I really hope there open to make some changes if necessary and not to stubborn.
 
Bro I posted this in VIP.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/all-free-agent-team-offense/

Perhaps we look at some of these players:

Offensive Tackle: Anthony Collins

One of the prized free agents in Tampa Bay’s 2014 haul, the 29-year old Collins lasted just one season with the Buccaneers, in what was his first season as a full-time starter. He fell from Pro Football Focus’ (PFF) 23rd rated offensive tackle in 2013 to 63rd in 2014. With the ability to play either tackle position, most teams would love to have him on their roster, but he is likely holding out for a starting position.

Guard: Justin Blalock

Since entering the league in 2007, Blalock has started 125 out of a possible 128 games for Atlanta, the only team he has ever played for. Released in a salary cap move, the 31-year old has been a top 30 guard the last two seasons according to PFF. He isn’t a top guard, but he could be a quality starter for a team.

Guard: Rob Sims

Sims is in a similar situation to Blalock, being 31 years old and having started 94 out of the last 96 games for Detroit and Seattle. Sims wasn’t as good according to PFF, ranking in the top 40 the past two seasons, but that is still a serviceable level. Sims is the type of guard who you can improve upon, but you could also do much worse than him.

Those would all be great pick ups for us, especially one or both of the guards. And maybe they are waiting for training camp, but as of right now we have what we have... And what we have is not looking too good. Hope things change because we can't just expect all of our potential to just pan out.
 
Our negatives/holes on both sides of the ball are still glaring... And adding Suh is nice but we still have ZERO depth at LB... Our LB depth is so bad that even if our "starters" stay healthy we will still be bottom 5 in the league at the position, just like last year.

Excited and hopeful for our team but I can't help but notice that our least productive units last season, OL and LB, are still huge weaknesses.

I agree we do need better depth, and hopefully (especially at the O-line) we do get better backups, but actually it's huge question marks. not weaknesses that we have, there is a huge difference.

Last year when Albert was healthy Miami looked like an O-line that could get the job done, even with a 2nd rate Center and a once all-pro center coming back from surgery and playing out of position at guard. if Miami is able to get through the season without Albert again getting badly injured (at least to the point of being out for more then 2-3 games) Miami's backups right now are good enough to hold the fort a few games.

My personal opinion and hope to end up being the starters---> Albert.....Douglas.....Pouncey.....Turner.....James



On defense Suh will make a huge difference for the LBers, and even though the LB position is an even bigger question mark (especially M-LB), Miami did bring a few quality FA LBs after the draft, each of which were thought could be solid and could have very easily been drafted as early as the 3rd or 4th round, if just one of them were to show to be a solid in the middle, Misi could be moved outside, and all of a sudden the LB squad is not as big a problem as many might think.

My personal opinion and hope to end up being the starters on running downs---> Jenkins.....Hull.....Misi
 
### Detroit finished second in total defense last season, but in Suh’s first four seasons, the Lions’ defense ranked 21st (2010), 23rd, 13th and 16th. That means Detroit's defense was average to below average in three of his five seasons --- certainly not a reflection on Suh but an indication that Suh cannot mask a team's glaring defensive weaknesses.

He should have mentioned before Suh was drafted, Detroit's defense was ranked 32nd in yards and pts the previous three years in a row and the year before that they were 30th yds and 28th pts. That was one pathetic defense for a long time. Suh made immediate impact even getting the defense to low 20's. If the point was Suh couldn't take the worst defense in the league to top 3 in a couple of years all by himself, then fine. However, no one player in this league on offense or defense takes a perennial 32nd ranked unit to top 10 right away.
 
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